Randoms against Larkus are impossible to win, Believe me I play a lot of EBG with my three main pjs.
Got butchered by them earlier in IOC, didn’t stand a chance. Think they had pretty much every vehicle, over very fast.
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I’ve also played Epic BGs between 1 and 4 AM recently and didn’t encounter any premade raids recently, but maybe I just got lucky.
Is Alfredo playing on Horde? How many players does he usually take with him into his premade raids? What are the names of the players that are associated with him?
I mean, from the perspective of a premade raider, beating other premade raids isn’t that hard, because you also have the advantages that they have. Furthermore you are in Pandora’s premade community if I am not mistaken, and unlike other premade communities, you are also elitist as to who you allow to play with you and don’t just take everyone, thus ensuring a higher player quality on average. It is not surprising that you don’t struggle against Larkus, but for the average Joe, who queues either solo or with a small group, he is really tough to beat.
I never had him as an opponent, but tagged along once as a random solo player with his premade raid team in Southshore. The round ended in a completely one-sided baserape after 3 minutes, at least 6 alliance players didn’t even release their spirits.
But to return to my original question, that is, how often do you encounter premade raids: can you give me a percentage of in how many rounds of epic bgs you face premade raids on average? I would say I face them less than in 10% of my epic bgs. They are very uncommon in my estimation.
dont think 2nd question is allowed here as its per se witchhunt
Burn the witches! (But no seriously, don’t)
Nobody here wants to hunt any witches. I just find it strange that you all talk about this Alfredo guy and I’m like “Alfredo who?” Either I have never met him, or he was there right under my nose the whole time and I didn’t even notice him. Which is strange, because I play epic bgs actively.
At least tell me whether he is Alliance or Horde.
And what would a witch hunt even look like? This forum has premade raid members taking part in discussions openly and the worst thing we can do to them is call them lame.
I just want to be able to recognize them if I meet them.
I couldn’t tell you the names but yeah Horde, not sure if they have an Alliance option as well.
As an example as to how often, yesterday I faced Larkus’s premade 3 times and Alfredo’s 4 times, maybe had 2 or 3 where I didn’t face either of those and one game I landed in somebody else’s Alliance premade against Alfredo’s.
I have played 2 epics in a row just now and both versus Pandora premades, if you are playing regularly in those BG’s and have not faced any of them, you have more luck than most it would seem.
Then again, obviously you’re less likely to face them as Horde but I do seem to encounter more premades from Horde than I do from Allies when I’m on my Horde.
Thing with Larkuz he plays at an specific timeframe which is roughly around the evening, atleast on his Horde toon. I have played & joined his premade for roughly 2 weeks, but don’t know about his alliance’s timeframe.
The others that I know they play random hours varying from daytime into evening, even late at night.
Yeah, the Alfredo ones seem to be late PM into early AM most days and today was the first Pandoria ones I’ve seen in a couple of weeks maybe. First time that I’m aware of yesterday, facing Larkus.
Best viable option for the EBG game would simply be to add a 40v40 match for bonuses with no restrictions on players joining together, then hopefully, but doubtfully they could leave the randoms to be played the way they should be played.
I only play Alliance, I often find Alfredo and Larkus premades, especially after midnight.
That’s crazy much. May I ask how many players you queue up with? I usually queue in groups of 2-4 people, 3 on average. I suspect the smaller your groups, the more likely it is that you will end up with or against a premade raid.
Btw, today is the first time I have seen a premade raid again, this time it was Larkus on my side. I took some nice screenshots
h.ttps://imgur.com/a/eMKAmDW
Just look at this and tell me this is normal.
“Don’t check, farm ally.”
“Don’t cap FLAAAAAg”
Yeah they wanted to farm stormpike GY instead of winning, even though they could easily win at this point. I ruined it for them by deliberately capping and they started mass reporting me afk, but I avoided being kicked out by attacking Alliance players and NPCs. They also deliberately didn’t take the Dun Baldar Bunkers and wanted to farm reinforcements instead. I told the DH who was with me to cap them so we could kill Vanndar with 2 people if need be. We eventually won with lots of salt from their premade players.
I encourage everyone who finds themselves involuntarily participating in a premade raid to do as I did and sabotage graveyard farming degeneracy by deliberately capping the flag. They ruin the game for other people, it is only appropriate to “ruin” the game for them by forcing them to win quickly instead of humiliating non-degenerate players who play normally.
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I always queue alone, always have… bar 1 or 2 weeks back in vanilla but yeah, facing premades an awful lot. If it was just the odd game here and there, I doubt many would be too bothered but seriously it’s happening in at least 50% of my games, and that’s being conservative with the estimation.
I’ve faced you in a few games as well and you’re always very tough to play against, seem to get the troops well organised, always stubborn as hell to try to breakdown in the WG games.
The last time I got sorted into a premade raid was when I queued for Southshore alone.
Now i queued with only one friend. It seems the algorithm tries to sort only a limited number of groups together into one team. At least I don’t think it is pure coincidence that I encounter premade raids less frequently than you.
All I ever really do as attacker in Wintergrasp is get the raid leader, give myself a SKULL icon and do a raid warning that everyone should stay close to SKULL. Then I try to intercept the stragglers in the defending team so we already take 5-10 out and we outnumber the opponent team. I use speed boosts like dragon fruit and nitro and intercept them with ring and legsweep. My buddies who play even faster classes like warrior typically arrive even faster.
It never fails to surprise me how lazy and stupid many epic bg players are. On maps like Wintergrasp and Isle of Conquest, it is of utmost importance to get to Hangar or Sunken Ring FAST, yet you always have 5 people afking in spawn or moving indecisively towards workshop just to turn around and lose time. Or arriving at Sunken Ring way too late. Another example is diving into sunken Ring alone without your group and getting obliterated by 40 players. Your team loses a fighter and the opponents gain quicker access to vehicles. Yet so many players do it. It’s baffling.
The good thing about this is that you can take advantage of the laziness of some players in the other team and punish them for it, making it more likely that you win.
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I’m forever baffled by how many players will just run straight from the graveyard, past the vehicle station while there’s still loads available, people are begging people to get more vehicles and we’ll spend half a game using half the supply, the mind boggles at times.
What you call somebody, that’s what you call yourself. You’re the only degenerate here, okay?
Stop whining and snot here, it’s already more than enough in all aspects, if you really want to really change or offer something, create your own community, unite people around yourself and your ideas and flag you, yourself in one place, see you on Ebg and hopefully on the other side…
Are you guys still salty because I “ruined” Alterac yesterday for you?
You know, when I first saw Larkus in the raid, I just thought whatever, he is bringing more than 5 players with him and kinda cheating the queue system and that is lame, but at least we’re gonna win fast. But then I saw that you wanted to farm graveyards instead of winning the round.
Our team crushed the alliance players in a completely one-sided manner, they had 0 chance, we pushed them all the way back to Dun Baldar. Instead of capping the remaining Bunkers or killing Vanndar to win the round, you didn’t do it on purpose and artificially prolonged the round by slaugthering them at the graveyard which you also didn’t take even though you could have easily done so.
The round was the exact opposite of fair or fun for the opponents, and you chose to waste their time even more, torturing and humiliating them.
Do you understand that people want to play a fair game, and not unwinnable, boring, one-sided bs they are forced to sit through because of people like you and Larkus?
Do you know that it makes people want to leave the game when they encounter groups like yours too often?
I call all premade raid groups in casual PvP lame because they cheat the queue system to create unfair advantages, but if they then also camp graveyards like Larkus’ group does, I will call them degenerates and double down on it. I will keep “sabotaging” your groups if I ever queue into your team involuntarily and exposing what you do to everyone.
Do you honestly think you could defeat me in a fair competition, Mr. Bashar al Hardstuck 1200 with 42% winrate in solo shuffle?
Without your community and strength in numbers due to queue syncing, you clowns are nothing. In fact, I have already defeated Premade raid teams without being in a premade raid team. I have defeated Fado twice, Nepha and Rezal once each.
If I ever decided to queue sync with multiple groups of players as good as me, I would RAPE yo 4ss. It wouldn’t even be close. The only team that would pose a challenge would be Pandora’s community. Unlike other premade communities, they actually know how to play.
It is neither a lack of skill nor the organizational aspect that prevents me from actually doing it, but simply the fact that I know that 90% of the time, I wouldn’t be fighting even remotely challenging battles, because random epic bgs are meant to be played in small groups of up to 5 people max and not full raids. I would only be ruining the game for other people like you do now.
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One from last night, no idea who the Russian is, if it’s Larkus or someone else, no idea but here’s a coupe of pics, one showing the joy he got from seeing 18 of the opposing faction quit the game and one showing myself and others, just sitting around doing absolutely nothing cos opposition were pretty much all pinned in at the south GY. Fair play to the group that manged to get north and gank me to bits lol…
h.ttps://postimg.cc/gallery/8GSgjdWZ
Yeet the premades.