Severe Warrior Stance Issue

This bug has caused so much irritation and annoyance to my gameplay and i just got a reply from Blizzard stating that they are not aware of any issue like it which makes me scratch my head…

Would REALLY appreciate if fellow warriors could speak up regarding this issue.

Now, to the issue at hand:

Say you begin in Berserker Stance. You want to quickly change to Battle Stance for Overpower and back to Berserker Stance. But mostly likely what will happen if you will try to do this very quick is your action bars will rapidly switch between battle/zerker setup, potentially causing me to waste pummel EVEN when i’m in battle stance.

Also if you try to change stances while casting your mount you will see the action bars changing too(They should not) even if you’re not actually changing stance, and i think they are somehow related.

This is BEYOND irritating, specially when tanking, and i cannot imagine the frustration during Arms pvp. I see my bars go back and forth like crazy when stance dancing as if they can’t decide which stance to land at.

I use mouse button for defensive stance and scroll for battle/zerker.

No, this is not a mouse issue, i’ve had this setup since the birth of WoW. Even if i used button hotkeys instead and swapped stances fast i would still see the action bars sporadically change between setups.

This has caused me to use the wrong abilities or have my overpowers come delayed.

NEEDS TO BE CONFIRMED AND FIXED.

EDIT: Video showing the issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C167Nf1DhAs

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Unbind shift-1 to shift-9 keys
one of them makes your actions bars clonky in the middle of you using all your hotkeys.

OTherwise just simply get an UI-addon where your action bars doesnt change when dance stancing.

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Just to clear it up I assume you have bound pummel to the same slot and that is why you mention it.

I guess I get something similar? If I change stance it goes from berserker, to battle and then flashes berserker quickly and goes back to battle again. It goes some extra delay between each stance switch.

I agree that bars acting strange. When I press stance button, I get instantly action bar, but actual stance changed a bit later. If you point your mouse to ability and change stance, you can see that tooltip changed but stance requirement is red, so stance is not changed yet and stance changes moment later.

I don’t know if it’s authentic behaviour or not, so I can’t confirm that it’s a bug.

You might want to try macroses.

Not a big issue for me, personally, but I don’t switch stances, I prefer to select one before fight.

Same problem with stealth.

Tried unbinding them and it didn’t help at all. Thanks though. I never needed an addon in vanilla or on private servers for this issue as this didn’t happen back then.

Not entirely sure what you mean Dulg. I have pummel bound to F, which is same as overpower and disarm on the action bar. But when i change stances quickly back and forth the bars goes like this…

If i try and do berserker > battle > berserker quick, this is how the action bar layout will go…

Berserker, battle, berserker, battle, berserker, battle, berserker, battle, berserker.

Basically it might change back to the wrong layout again before you even have time to use the ability you want.

EDIT: Added video for showing the issue.

Blizzard messed up the “spell batching” by giving the servers a weird delay.

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I’m just annoyed they didn’t acknowledge it as an issue.

I’m playing stance dancer with blizz ui myself and see no issues so far on bar changing front.
There are some with macro tooltips failing to show correct ability, but it still does what it supposed to do.

I use macros for dancing with following setup:
Q: /cast [stance:1] Overpower; Battle Stance
E: /cast [stance:2] Shield Block; Defensive Stance
F: /cast [stance:3] Whirlwind; Berserker Stance

All other stuff is macro’ed with /startattack [harm]
*could be some typo as i’m typing from memory.

That’s weird. Using the same setup with stances on wheel: battle down, def up, berz press, never had an issue. Using elvui with primary bar changing with stance. The only thing to consider is to unbind shift+1-9 so that bars don’t switch accidentally. Have charge/intercept and bash/pummel bound to same key.

Oh, that’s not the issue for me, thanks though.

No, i got what you are talking about, just never seen bars go mad myself, maybe elvui tweaks something idk

Hehe, thanks. It’s really frustrating. Twice in my last Stratholme tanking run i meant to swap stances for quick mocking blow which is on the same key as shield bash (Number 6), and after changing to battle stance it uses bash instead. Cause the bars go batsh1t crazy.

That’s bloody annoying yea. All i can think of is try to play with some actionbars addons. They use their own scripts for bar changing

I have extremely severe OCD and suffer from illness. I have been using standard UI for as long as i can remember. I’m the guy who still type “hotmaildotcom” to access mail and stuff. Thanks for the idea though but it would not work for me i think.

I have seen a couple of threads where mouse causes these issues.
My stances are bound to my charge, taunt, sweeping.
Charge - out lf combat, intercept in combat, also have weapon equip bound to this.
Taunt: swap stance, equip weapons, taunt
Sweeping: stance, weapon, sweeping.

No issues with dancing.
I also always wait for gcd timer, as it can mess up weapon equips.

Even if i put two different stances on a R and V bind forexample. If i hit one of them, then spam the other one the bars go haywire. This will happen with addons turned off or on and the same way as i showed on the youtube clip i made.

This is NOT supposed to be happening and is driving me absolutely insane.

Sometimes i’m even able to use rend while in berserker stance because of this.

This is destroying gameplay for me. It’s utterly ignorant of Blizzard to not put this as an issue.

You should not be able to see your action bars change while attempting to change stances while casting mount, NOTHING should happen.

No matter how much you mash and spam stances like a maniac, your action bar should be 100% of the time staying on the current stance you are in, not go back and forth as if it couldn’t make up its darn mind.

I confirm this bug, i have the same problem as you and i was starting to desperate trying to macro things out to make it work correctly ( which doesnt work ), if you spam other stance while you are already swapping to another the game doesn t really register which stance the warrior actually is and mess things up.
Sometimes i m going back and forth to every stance ( the 3 of them while only using 2 of them …) during almost 0.5s.

I tried to have fixed bar with macros, it doesnt solve the problem.
The problem is not the bar changing is the game doesnt know in which stance you are.

It probably is linked to spell batching,
Implement a debounce type function with GCD as the reset timer ?

You can use this macro to see the bug in action ( use the swapping bar )
/cast [stance:1/2] Berserker Stance
/cast [stance:3] Battle Stance

Spam it and enjoy

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This is somewhat normal.

Say you use the same hotkey for Backstab and Ambush because why shouldn’t you, they are basically the same ability save for stealth.

  • Scenario A: You put them in your main action bar in the same position
  • Scenario B: You put them in a macro with stealth/nostealth modifiers so you use one or the other based on whether you are in stealth or not

You’re in combat and want to Vanish+Ambush, but instead you Backstab. Why?

  • A: Stealth bar doesn’t come up before you hit the second key, so you hit Backstab instead. Server receives petition to Vanish and Backstab and that’s what it does.
  • B: Because of latency the server hasn’t acknowledged that you are in stealth so your client sees you push your macro, and based on your status, stealth off, decides to ask for a Backstab. Server says “cool, Backstab it is”.

The only way to prevent this if you don’t pause yourself between strokes is to use distinct keys and spam them: that way when you Vanish + Ambush if you do it too fast it will just say “you’re not in stealth” until you’re granted stealth, and then Ambush will work.

Thank you so much. We’ll we’re one step ahead to knowing what the problem is then i suppose. Just hope Blizzard can fix this for us. :slight_smile: