I’ve also met overly polite and nice ones, don’t get me wrong. But it seems to be a mega hit or miss. Either super polite or super rude.
Le epic game store XD gave it away for free a few months (or so) ago. I got it, installed it and I was disappointed to say the least.
There aren’t even wandering merchants! The humanity! Imagine Witcher 3 but you walk (+ maybe a horse) and there’s NOTHING in the world going on ever.
is this based on your own experiences?
Having played the game (and enjoyed it), I didn’t really notice any major cases of blatant or rampant overt sexism, but I wasn’t actively looking.
Can you provide some examples?
I only played the game myself very little. Otherwise its from what I have seen and gathered, but I’ll provider what I think are example sure!
While the game has a fixed narrative/character you play as rather than choose your own(which is fine) when asked why there was no female protagonist, instead of saying that, the lead dev just ranted about how it was historically accurate and women cant fight.
In the actual game itself, there are like 6 women and they all have the same two characters/personalities. Prostitutes or weak willed submissive things. Im fully aware we’ve not had the same rights as men in history and roles, but not every single woman in the middle ages was A) “insert ding dong here” or B) “woe is me Sir, i can do naught but babies and cry without the men around”. All of this has also been defended by the same lead dev as just being “realistic”.
You get an actual ingame buff for sleeping with women. Coupled with the past things+the devs IRL views Id say thats pretty sexist.
Granted, these are my personal opinions.
Edit: the game has a similliar issue with people who arent white. As Adelais mentioned about nationalism, it has a very glorified view of its(and the devs) home country. Any black character in the game is treated as objectivly evil, bloodthirsty monsters. When asked why, same answer as above with the women, including a memeworhy “dark people didnt exist in medieval times”.
Yet they did apparantly as monsters.
That isn’t an example of ingame sexism, rather an example of a dev with sexist views, though.
They added a DLC revolving entirely around two female characters, with two separate stories, one of which having a female playable protagonists.
I don’t think it’s sexist to suggest that engaging in intercourse might “buff” one’s mental or physical wellbeing.
I don’t think the game was any more sexist than most other story entries depicting that period of time, to be honest.
Wasnt aware at all that it had a DLC, so apologise for not mentioning it!
More so in the context it was presented in
in my opinion.
Perhaps not, but its in my opinion still there and problematic. And the lead devs own views behind it only sours it further.
Though if you did like/do like the game thats fine. People like diffrent things.
If the lead dev has such views, I can understand it souring your opinion of the game and making you view it through those lenses.
I haven’t really seen compelling evidence of sexism in the game, from your examples, but I think I’ve gotten a good impression of why you’d consider it sexist.
Yes, we do, but making sweeping mischaracterising statements about products you’re only superficially acquainted with isn’t really fine.
Honestly. My main takeaways from Kingdom Come was just like, how poorly put together and unfinished it feels.
Henry is excessively boring, but I do understand why you play from a male character’s perspective where the story is concerned. As a woman, it’s not so much a case of ‘not being able to fight’ so much as it is I’d have spent half the game being locked up, having my things confiscated or married off to some noble or peasant against my will.
Not all the female characters were weak willed either, tbh, but saying that, majority of characters in the game suffer from weak characterization. That being said, what is and what isn’t ‘weak willed’ often seems to be a point of contention.
I remember the miller’s daughter being quite confident, outgoing, determined, etc, even if her lot in life was as a miller’s daughter. Even the women at the bath houses have very clear rules on what is and what isn’t acceptable, and they will outright refuse service if you act like a douche-monkey.
Where historical ‘accuracy’ is concerned, I can’t really comment.
It’s not a weird hate fetish manifesto of a game, regardless, imo. I think it’s a pretty flawed and mediocre unfinished title but ‘fetishistic hate manifesto’ is pushing it a bit, lol. Not everything someone creates has to be 100% representative of what they personally might think/believe.
Having such extreme reviews about titles you haven’t even played is kind of why people don’t take Anita Sarkeesian remotely seriously. Like. Where GG is concerned, I don’t really believe in censorship or silencing people, or bullying them, or using death threats to coerce - or any of the heinous things that happened during it - but speaking critically, Sarkeesian’s views are ‘usually’ poorly formed garbage based on things she’s never even sat down and played.
I don’t know much about Kingdom Come Deliverance but I hadn’t heard any negativity about it relating to its depiction of women (or anything else for that matter). What I do know is that we have to be careful when we jump full-throttle into an issue; it won’t be taken seriously if you engage with absolutely everything, particularly when approaching it without a more substantive understanding.
Based on your post I think maybe you played it only via the twitter.com app on your phone
Why? Were you planning to hang out with the dev team of this video game after beating it / become lifelong friends
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IMO It was a good game which was in fact improved by how buggy it was / how boring the MC was. That’s just soul
Ah… i haven’t heard of that grifter in ages.
True. And that is a fair point as well. A game or work can/is more than just the head name on it and does well on its own.
As for everything rest everyone has said, yeah I realize It came/comes across poorly to talk, especially negative about something I dont or didnt have full context or knowledge off and that I did wrong with it. Hence why I stopped posting about it aswell after the last post from Moody.
But Orcs smelly greenskins.
No.
10chars
I would kill for a worgen variant that allows us to portray night elf worgen
Taking your OwO and your human (literally) rights!
I don’t know what things I expected to see in this thread but the CAS redemption arc definitely wasn’t one of them
What’s CAS? Googling isn’t helping me much as I think you meant neither Citizens Advice Scotland or Chemical Abstracts Service.
CAS is Fearless’s nom de plume on most things
I am not aware of homophobia ever being present in the books or the game. However, racism and sexism do exist.
Dwarf women can hold their beer and toss their axes just as well as the men but despite that Magni Bronzebeard was blatantly sexist towards his own daughter and his opinion on women as rulers was known by quite a few. This was what led to Moira bonding with her captor and adopting the Dark Iron dwarves as her people.
Others mentioned Calia being overlooked for the throne in favour of her brother simply because she was a woman and I would like to bring up the sad fate of Tess Greymane. Her dad spends so much time reminiscing about his dead son and being a parental figure to another young man that he seems to have completely forgot his own daughter’s existence.
Night elves, of course, are the race most known for their extremely strict gender roles. Though they have eased up on it, it is a recent development for them (eight or ten years is very recent for a race as long lived as them) so there will be those clinging to the old ways - same as with the re-introduction of arcane users into their society.
While humans don’t discriminate against each other based on colour/ethnicity, the more tribal races do. The trolls, for example, have been murdering each other since the dawn of time. I’m surprised we have gotten as many troll instances as we did considering how good the trolls are at sabotaging themselves.
Some orcs also treat their brethren with suspicion and even hatred because of the history behind that green skin. Quite a few Bronzebeard and Wildhammer dwarves are wary of their Dark Iron cousins to this day and many oppose Moira’s half Dark Iron son becoming the king.
Why play a sociopathic murderer if you aren’t one in real life?
Calia was literally a footnote until maybe like 2 years ago.
Blizzard constantly forgets its own characters. This is nothing to do with sexism.
Are not sexist. Gender roles do not define sexism.
I get what you’re trying to get at, but I don’t think you’re hitting the right spots here, chief.
edit: retracted the last two quotes because they are relevant points