Well, sometimes they express it less directly. Like talking about jars of dolmio.
what?
It is not a tale that the Jedi would tell you.
Sounds like we should keep it at that.
Iâm glad you brought that up!
Bad memories are much, much more easier to remember than good ones- Even when they conflict with each other, exactly how you brought the idea up. People find all kinds of (questionable) ways to either completely skip the cognitive dissonance and retain their beliefs, because people are not logical.
Maybe. Maybe not. Weâll never know I suppose.
Agreed.
Thatâs the thing. Why you need to mention sexual prefrences of a character when you meet a person? It doesnât matter, unless they met -exactly- for dating purposes, or I believe, when it comes to inducting into some official military organization, so they could house you properly.
Thatâs whole other thing, when the topic comes to it, and everyone around start talking about it, then yeah - why not. For example, as you have stated above, when character describes that they went to the picnic with their partner.
As of my first part of the message.
Any one-dimensional character with just one quirk that people popping into otherâs faces when situation does not ask for it is a poor taste in my opinion. It doesnât have to be sexuality, it could be their political preferences/xenophobic stances, e.t.c.
Ok if Atahalni tells you that he wants to buy a present for his asian panda gf* for love is in the air, is that him telling about his sexual preferences?
*He doesnât actually have one (sadly).
No. Heâs talking about buying a present, and specifies who he wants it for, so you can give him the right advice.
The same situation as mentioned above, with going to picnic with a partner.
i assume you are reffering to people that put their preferences in their trp?
Somewhat. The original point was that I donât understand people who put âLGTBQ+ friendlyâ stuff into their TRP. When majority of players on this server are sensible and automatically donât have anything against those people. Itâs just feels unnecessary.
Sure, but in this case youâre writing a character. You actively make the choice to have them retain their beliefs, even when it would be logical, because âpeople are not logicalâ. However, you have not lived on Azeroth, so youâre still basing it off your own real world experiences or views, which do not fit Azeroth.
In real life, thereâs many reasons for that, and generally itâs as I said, an introduction. And it doesnât have to be âhey, iâm , iâm , and iâm , my pronouns are , nice to meet you!â. It can come out (heh) in different ways, e.g. your character might ask about a loved one (since weâre introducing characters to eachother). It doesnât even have to be for dating purposes.
Yeah, for example, I found people yelling âmake azeroth great againâ during those riot events in stormwind in very poor taste. However, I donât think Iâve yet to meet any character whose only character trait is their sexuality. To me it sounds more like a gay character myth. Something more homophobic people have conjured up, for example.
As idealistic as it sounds, unfortunately thatâs not the reality. Many even on Argent Dawn can be LGBTQ+ unfriendly as well. In many cases, you might not even know of the other personâs stance and donât want to bring it up (perhaps in fear of becoming the gay character myth). And itâs not even always just for IC stuff.
Some still fear coming out OOCly because they donât want to cause drama or conflict, and until they explicitly see (through discussions, or⌠the LGBTQ+ friendly flag?) that itâs OK, they may actively hide parts of themselves or even lie about it.
The characters are played by players, and the game is designed by humans. As such it is not really a hard assumption to make that the game and itâs characters are (mostly) similar to us with their motifs and actions- And you can kind of see this being the case even with the current lore, lol. Makes absolutely no logical sense, but appeals to emotions.
But anyway my point wasnât to say âok just be homophobic/sexist/racist in the game because an argument exists for itâ, my point was to show that the idea that people have (as the poster I quoted pointed out)that biases are easily defeated with facts and logic is just completely and utterly false.
Talking about loved ones - is perfectly alright. I was more refering to âHi, Iâm that, have those pronounces, e.t.câ(Iâve met a couple of those people, thatâs why Iâm making this point. Even if itâs exception, not a rule).
As of unfriendly players. In my experience, they are just vocal minority that are not that pleasant to RP with, without even bringing that stuff up. I had some not pleasant OOC experiences because of my RL views, but does it mean we need to make flags for every opinion now? âGun friendlyâ âRight-Wing friendlyâ e.t.c .
They are mercifully not that common on WoW. Elsewhere, howeverâŚ
Walk around in Stormwind a bit.
I mean, you canât defeat something whoâs irrational and illogical with facts and logic, yes. But Iâd rather not interact with such a person anyway, especially if they donât listen to reason.
But itâs literally just basic introductions though? Whatâs wrong with this?
Itâs literally just a flag to let a person know they can be their authentic self instead of repressing themselves, though. Itâs not a big deal that Iâm still not sure why itâs a problem for you.
yeah damn hallmark movies with their constant straight rom-coms
(until this year hehe)
You really should stop seeing issues and problems in absolutely everything Vixi
I never said that âLGBTQ+ friendlyâ in profile is - bad, or wrong. I just said to -me- it feels unnecessary. For you and others it may be necessary - and thatâs fine.
As of basic introductions:
I was specifically talking about âsituation not asking for thisâ. For example, if you are seeking to befriend a person. Then, yeah, I believe it may be a good thing to tell them in a little bit, as you are getting to know them. But when you are enlisting into mercenaries squad to kill some cobolds - thatâs a weird thing to say during enlistment in my opinion.
Yeah but I was talking about introductions in general. What feels necessary for you depends entirely on what situation youâre in, but in this case, it was introductions.
Well maybe if youâd responded to my affectionate discord messages Iâd feel better about your people Nerathion, but apparently Iâm not good enough so here we are =/
No gf on the Warcraft streets no gf in the real life sheets