Making a topic where people could suggest or have any idea to eventual talents or what to change about shadow priest in the upcoming "potential" rework about shadow priest in 8.1!
How about making Void torrent a dps cooldown that we put in the level 30 row instead of twist of fate? Like "While channeling Void Torrent, deal x amount of damage and increase the rate of which your DoT's tick on your target"?
Anyone else feeling kinda scared about the silence regarding the state of shadow?
Feel free to comment!
There's no "upcoming potential rework" to shadow priests announced... we still at bottom at the moment.
They buffed us a 1% of overall ST damage, and we should be happy with that?
They're trolling us, laughting in our faces.
They buffed us a 1% of overall ST damage, and we should be happy with that?
They're trolling us, laughting in our faces.
I feel like in an abandoned ship to be honest.
Buffing us doesn't help with the bad gameplay.
As long as gameplay isn't fun, numbers don't matter.
I wouldn't use a knife without a handle no matter how well it cuts~
Buffing us doesn't help with the bad gameplay.
As long as gameplay isn't fun, numbers don't matter.
I wouldn't use a knife without a handle no matter how well it cuts~
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Guess re-roll to yet another melee class is a way to go for m+ / mythic raids.
Rogues ftw.
Rogues ftw.
Nice to see there are still some people believing xD I abandoned ship yesterday, completely.
THERE IS STILL HOPE Mind Flay and Mind Sear buffs inc.
01/10/2018 07:57Posted by LynlaraeTHERE IS STILL HOPE Mind Flay and Mind Sear buffs inc.
Not enough...
I wish that we had some support attached to our spec to compensate for poor performance. I do think that shadow can be a competitive spec, but it requires SIGNIFICANTLY more work than other specs to make it work. The gameplay is counterintuitive and confusing at many times.
I'd like to see a legion priest comeback, or even better, MoP/Cata. Nobody will take a shadow priest into a half decent pug and blizzard knows why. We bring nothing other than a stam buff and very niche damage.
I'd like to see a legion priest comeback, or even better, MoP/Cata. Nobody will take a shadow priest into a half decent pug and blizzard knows why. We bring nothing other than a stam buff and very niche damage.
01/10/2018 12:16Posted by JamĂĂ©I wish that we had some support attached to our spec to compensate for poor performance. I do think that shadow can be a competitive spec, but it requires SIGNIFICANTLY more work than other specs to make it work. The gameplay is counterintuitive and confusing at many times.
I'd like to see a legion priest comeback, or even better, MoP/Cata. Nobody will take a shadow priest into a half decent pug and blizzard knows why. We bring nothing other than a stam buff and very niche damage.
We bring tentacles thou... :o)
01/10/2018 16:17Posted by Ghimrizz01/10/2018 12:16Posted by JamĂĂ©I wish that we had some support attached to our spec to compensate for poor performance. I do think that shadow can be a competitive spec, but it requires SIGNIFICANTLY more work than other specs to make it work. The gameplay is counterintuitive and confusing at many times.
I'd like to see a legion priest comeback, or even better, MoP/Cata. Nobody will take a shadow priest into a half decent pug and blizzard knows why. We bring nothing other than a stam buff and very niche damage.
We bring tentacles thou... :o)
that you cant even see properly? yeah right
The best is when you change back and forth from disc and shadow during play and you can feel the change in fluidity and fun right in your fingertips.
It's basically one of the best designed specs VS. the worst designed spec.
I think our real main problem here is shadow's sister spec affliction and the devs desire to push their ''class identity'' agenda which leaves us with a lot of clunky mechanic bloat, just for the sake of distinguishing us more from affliction. Shadow was completely fine before the void thing was added.
But at this point the horse they're sitting on is as high as the mt.everest, no way they come out and say ''ok, the void thing wasn't such a good idea after all''
It's basically one of the best designed specs VS. the worst designed spec.
I think our real main problem here is shadow's sister spec affliction and the devs desire to push their ''class identity'' agenda which leaves us with a lot of clunky mechanic bloat, just for the sake of distinguishing us more from affliction. Shadow was completely fine before the void thing was added.
But at this point the horse they're sitting on is as high as the mt.everest, no way they come out and say ''ok, the void thing wasn't such a good idea after all''
02/10/2018 01:28Posted by AmarîelBut at this point the horse they're sitting on is as high as the mt.everest, no way they come out and say ''ok, the void thing wasn't such a good idea after all''
I think the Void theme is a blast and fits the class fantasy and theme of the spec wonderfully.
Pre-Legion Priest, with the shadoworbs was, to me at least, mind-numbing and dull. The intensity of Voidform along with turning more and more dark and growing tentacles is cool as hell!
It does suck that, from what I gather from the various posts here, that Blizz has screwed over our balancing and rotation.
In my humble opinion, I would simply like to return to something Legion-like and then we'd be good!
Void Torrent and SW:D as baseline!
And a proper AoE that isn't Mind Sear or Shadow Crash would be nice as well.
I liked both the shadoworb playstyle, and the voidform playstyle to be honest.
Apart from the fact that Shadow currently isn't great to play balance wise, i wish they would figure out something for the Voidform drain.
In order to maximise dps / maintain Voidform, we need to be able to cast spells/deal damage. The most frustrating thing to see is to for example; Fight one of those giant worms that goes onderground and becomes untargetable, while you just actived Voidform. If there's nothing to attack, you'll just drop out of Voidform and lose more than half of your dps.
Now you could pop your only defensive CD Dispersion, to prevent stacks dropping, or have a timer for everything so you know not to pop Voidform, but that shouldn't be how it works IMO.
Apart from the fact that Shadow currently isn't great to play balance wise, i wish they would figure out something for the Voidform drain.
In order to maximise dps / maintain Voidform, we need to be able to cast spells/deal damage. The most frustrating thing to see is to for example; Fight one of those giant worms that goes onderground and becomes untargetable, while you just actived Voidform. If there's nothing to attack, you'll just drop out of Voidform and lose more than half of your dps.
Now you could pop your only defensive CD Dispersion, to prevent stacks dropping, or have a timer for everything so you know not to pop Voidform, but that shouldn't be how it works IMO.
02/10/2018 01:28Posted by AmarîelShadow was completely fine before the void thing was added.
Nah.
As Shadow Priest you've always used a lot of buttons and time to achieve what others could do with fewer buttons and less time.
It is too slow. It always has been. Some expansions it has played faster than others, but relative to the general pace of the game, Shadow Priest plays too slow.
That is its fundamental problem.
I am not sure what we were trying to achieve with all these "pretend" threads.
it has not worked before and it is clearly not going to work anytime soon.
it has not worked before and it is clearly not going to work anytime soon.
I have to admit I did have to get used a bit after Legion but I am enjoying playing the spec a lot atm :)
I played with a shadow priest yday - mythic + 7. He was top of the dmg in every boss and 2nd sometimes 3rd on packs. With tyrannical affix last week shadow priests were the go to class.
I am leveling my priest atm and thinking of playing shadow. wish me luck
I am leveling my priest atm and thinking of playing shadow. wish me luck
I am loving the spec and the playstyle right now, on multitarget fights where they live a little longer I can easily do top-level dps. Yes we need a little bit of a number tuning and I'd love to be able to stay in VF longer but I would be really sad if they remade the spec completely.
Blizzard knows how buff shadow priest, they just don't want.
It is every patch, you have weak, good and strong specs. This is what they want. We are just unlucky, because shadow is bad now.
Buff basic spells is good, but they should focus more on talents
- Twist of Fate needs buff (10 % is too low)
- Shadow Word: Death back to base abilites
- Separate Lingering Insanity from Mindbender (This 90lvl row needs rework, everytime just mindbender)
It is every patch, you have weak, good and strong specs. This is what they want. We are just unlucky, because shadow is bad now.
Buff basic spells is good, but they should focus more on talents
- Twist of Fate needs buff (10 % is too low)
- Shadow Word: Death back to base abilites
- Separate Lingering Insanity from Mindbender (This 90lvl row needs rework, everytime just mindbender)
Remove void form...biggest crap for shadow spec in wow.
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