Shadowlands: A Look at Covenant Class and Signature Abilities *Updated 5/13

Machines are the future after all.

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Yeah but they dont understand that. and gotta defend blizz even for stupid ideas for some reason. Instead of listenting to people who do actully understand the system and know form past examples/design it wont by anywhere near equal.

But hey got those as proof when once expac is out and all feedback got again ignored like always,can show this to the people who now defend it but wont once they actully feel/see the conquences themselves

I’m happy to have the abilities unbalanced, and there to be a price for swapping. The price should not be as blizz stated “high enough to discourage swapping” though. That’s just stupid. You may as well remove the option to swap if you don’t intend for people to.

Mixing this mentality in with abilities that will impact class performance in a non trivial way is stupid. All other such choices can be amended with a price which you can pay relatively quickly. Imagine if you needed to grind for 5 days to respec talents? I mean wtf.

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yeah its icnrebdly stupid.
but now youl get responses of blizz thinks it good thus that means it automaticly good! and are no issues with it at all.

Or i dont care i dont care about performance(then why argue against option to swap in first place if would make no difference for you btu be betetr for people who do care)

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And all of a sudden people started to make sence again ty.

Until when?

I remember back at the end of TBC, when WotLK was just around the corner, people were making wishlists and suggestions of what abilities they want in the new expansion. Everyone assumed WotLK would bring 5 new abilities because that’s how many we got for TBC. Now we’re almost 8 expansions in and who know how many to come.
When will you class be complete if you feel you need more and more abilities? when does it end?

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Im against having a price for swaping , Bfa has given me enough gameplay limitaitions for lifetime. I might want to do a dungeon run before i head to raid you never know. And im dont want to pay a price for something i already have. If its a grind i have to do in order to be able to swap sure ill grind them one by one but no more gold sinks and no more time gates when it comes to performance mechanics.

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Bluzzard doesn’t give real abilities anymore. Everything after WoD prune has been temporary.

This is what I want to see blizzard move away from. Borrowed power is great short term, awful long term.

but they think its awsome so they fill kepe doing it until only people left are ones who do like it

Yes and what you quoted there is the reason why. You can’t really go infinite, if they continued like they did in TBC/WotLK, we’d all have 70-80 keybinds and systems of power upon systems of power which scale with eachother.

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Oof! So much imbalance from the get go XD

Hugely dislike this. It’s like essences all over again where we borrow power specific to the content while ignoring class fantasy. I’m a paladin but will need to align with the fantasy which is best for arena, mythic plus or raids rather than the fantasy that my class/me likes.

Very disappointed that this is the direction you are going.

Cant give you a streight answer but , giving me an iterupt thats not tied to a mele pet that needs to fist travel to its target will be great start.

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Funny to see that the people who already cry the most about it are also the most condescending and toxic ones. No surprise there.

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Hey you dont get to talk about Addiez like that hes a peach.

Which doesn’t mean that Covenant abilities will be anything like them.
It really doesn’t.

You don’t KNOW that yet. It might be nothing more than 0.5% difference.
I don’t know that either, but that’s my point. Why not wait with these doomscenarios UNTIL there’s actually something tangible to talk about?

Well, here’s where we differ. I DO think that’s fine.

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Cool, then what is your post saying about you if you post just to trash people :slight_smile:

Because you think others dont understand the system, dont make you right. Not only you and a handfull others are the only one who allowed to share their opinions.

It makes it more likely then not
If you don’t think so then that’s fine but the extent of your arguement so far hasn’t reached beyond ‘Because I say so’ and therefor isn’t convincing