Because if we wait for them to get to alpha/beta it will be too late to fix it in time. Blizzard addmited that azerite was poorly received in beta when it was fist introduced and it took them a year to design essenses. We dont want to wait another year to get a workable version of a game that we pay an active sub for .
And you do not participate in that form of content.
No. It doesnât. Sure, with your kind of mindset, it might seem that way.
Iâm thinking theyâve learned from their mistakes and these new abilities wonât be anything near as unbalanced because of that.
Thing is⌠we donât know which of us is right. We just donât. So assuming the worst, imo, is not the way to go.
Have you noticed that in WoD and in Legion we lost plenty of abilities and in Legion and BfA it was the first time I had half of my action bars free even with Focus and Arena123 macros. Also if they add new spells why are they connected to the covenant? Is it safe move so if they suck they can be removed like artifact and azerites? Letâs be honest classes nowadays feel like they are lacking some mechanics and feel too similar.
Also if you remember the gameplay Wrath fixed plenty of class/spec problems. It made some specs viable in more than 1 form of content and spells added then are in most cases still with us now. I also donât think that class should be ever complete but it should change and evolve with every expansion. The fact that some of Legion specs could literally be played on garrage pilot is sad. This game exists for 15 years and it should develop not take few steps backwards at the moment. The reason people praise Wrath and MoP so much is that they were mechanically amazing compared to the current class design. Even Cata that was hated for raids and plot had 10x better and more complex class designs overall with few flaws.
Nonsense. Pure utter nonsense.
Theyâve admitted that yes, and theyâve also promised in their Alpha info post that that is the reason why theyâre doing it differently this alpha/beta. Have you not read it?
So?
Because we tried that with BFA. and it was a mess. People want to get in a give this feedback NOW so solutions can be thought about by blizzard before its too late.
Indeed we do not, but BFA was received so poorly that the absolute vast majority (based on this very thread) are beyond the point of letting it up to chance
Basically, I donât think Amonet could have worded it better;
So we make noise now and while I also agree with you that they have probably learned their lesson and are now testing properly
Exactly however because we donât know how it will work, I will argue that it is very important that we keep reminding them of what we see as what we agree on is assuming the worst, just so that they donât make a repeat of finally removing war/titanforging only to replace it with war/titanforging on steroids (corruption)
Either way this thread is to have your voice heared, blizzard will analyze what people say and they will take it into account, no matter how hard someone is yelling at other people how wrong their opinions are
I say most people are reasonable to assume the worst, in fact, it would be foolishness to look at the future while willingly closing your eyes to the past
Even WoD which most people hate,for class design was for most part still pretty close to MoP. Unlike Legion prune which took like 10times more from your class/spec then WoD ever did.
Yet most people cant seem to ever renember Legion doing that, even though classes we got in BFA Are Legion classes at their core without all the rented power abilties. Classes basicly havent changed since legion prepatch on own,its all borrowed power
More people need to barrate Legion cause it started all this crap thats happend in bfa and will be in shadowlands aswell.
Aslo id give you a like but i ran out >.>
What they should do is to make convenient give people some cosmetic rewards and one Utility ability and THATâS IT. Itâs better to have a bit less than too much.
Again⌠THEYâVE SAID theyâre changing alpha/beta testing. Take longer. More focussed testing etc. If they break this promise in the pretty clear Alpha statement, how do you think THAT will look on them?
So yeah⌠I DO think they will do a better job in that regard.
So you can make assumptions but we cant ? You can give fedback but we cant and are crybabies ?
Youâre the type of player that wants WoW to be a grey soup. Where everyone is the same. Thatâs not what an RPG is.
Sorry youre not allowed to use logic to proof them wrong or anything like that.
You gotta blindly agree with them and love evrything blizz does.
If they will even listen to feedback at all that is
My assumptions donât cause me to make doomsaying threads with unfounded claims. 
Thatâs the big difference, man.
Donât start that âweâ stuff. When I critized YOU, I was talking to YOU. Not someone else. There is no âweâ.
Iâm happy they akcowledged that, will keep treating them as if they didnât say it until i see them put it in action tho.
so prolly never
If you let your dog eat s^^t it will keep eating s^^t.
Please revamp the system and place those abilities so you can chose whatver you want regardless of what covenant you have chosen. Right now it will have no choise. No matter what you do, there will be a clear winner among those abilities. And its getting even worst if you chose one thing for pvp, and then u need another from another covenant for pve. Let covenants provide only cosmetic rewards and goodies.
If those abilities are available for all covenants, you can chose and select what you want for the content you want to do and maybe the covenant you have chose will simply alter the look/effect/color/style of the animation of the abilities you have chosen. Something like that.
Thatâs unfair and narrowminded and stubborn.
And that will not help anyone. Theyâre people too. If you do your job and people keep telling you youâre doing a horrible job, thatâs going to rub you the wrong way. And deservedly so.
Basically i disagree with every single thing you said, but just want to point this one thing. Here you can have one or the other, it canât be both. The whole point of pruning was to make classes more unique and give each their own niche to shine.
Itâs a bit weird that you complain now that classes feel too similar but praise MoP where every class had basically the same toolkit but with different names.