I doubt that was intended by blizz originally, but it’s a nice backfill.
En taro Velen, my friend.
I mean regarding the whole AU Mag’har and Lightbound situation it seems to be issues from both parts to be honest.
First of all if you look at Gorgrond it is pretty much ‘‘devastated’’ as in almost all green areas been ruined, I doubt the Mag’har are very kind to the land itself in the area.
And I wouldn’t call them peaceful either as they seems to be quite warmongering when it comes to being on Azeroth whenever we see them being part of the war in BfA, not to mention they did side with Sylvanas even though the other orcs did not side with her.
As for the Lightbound yes they seem to be quite fanatic based on what we did find out in the Sermon of the High Exarch and heard by the orcs but in the end we do not know the full story here so it is hard to really say they are the big bad here or it is conflict of interest.
In the end both the Lightbound and the Mag’har seem to be causing quite some damage to Draenor and sadly we will most likely never find out the whole story.
Weird, when Nazgrim sided with Garrosh everyone said he was a super cool+honourable guy for doing so, yet Geya’rah doesn’t get that same treatment I wonder why.
Because Geya’rah was following her blindly, excusing everything Syvlanas did.
Nazgrim knew what Garrosh was doing and didn’t agree with it, but he valued his Honor and Oath to the Warchief more than anything.
Geya’rah was following her honour too? It’s explicitly addressed in the Baine arrest quest:-
She is no orc, but the warchief shows strength by punishing that tauren who deceived and betrayed her.
Those who lack loyalty also lack honor.
A line that would not be out of place at all if it came from Nazgrim.
That’s the only time pre-Saurfang mak’gora that Geya’rah gets any commentary on Sylvanas, so I don’t know why you think she was following blindly.
Because she clearly didn’t know anything about what Sylvanas had done. She was a really new member of the Horde and obv didnt know much about why Baine and many others felt the way they did regarding Sylvanas.
Nazgrim did know, that’s the difference.
Also Nazgrim have been around longer and we had time to get to know the guy thus building a more favorable opinion of the guy, this brown lass just shows up and acts all bossy.
What do you think she didn’t know about, at that point?
Her deceitful and dishonorable nature? Geya’rah is supposed to value honor, yet follows Sylvanas despite her not giving a damn about Honor at all.
So no actual actions. She wasn’t
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Both Geya’rah and Nazgrim are kinda wonky, since their concept of Honor is essentially to just full on comitt to anything big boss does, even if it’s a bad thing.
Then again, the only opposite honor we see to this route is Saurfang who jumps ship to the enemy faction when he doesn’t like things.
Blizzard doesn’t do honor well in their storytelling, because it’s generally a very vauge and very subjective concept that they try to pinpoint down for the Horde/orcs all over the place.
Or maybe honor is just a very poor platform to build your entire culture and faction around, because it is exactly a vauge and subjective concept which differs from each individual with very few overlapping commonly agreed on rules, which even then isn’t universal to everyone.
and that staying bound to such a poorly defined concept is a bad thing, the horde should learn to do away with, if they want to grow as a faction as they would surely collapse should they continue to let such a personal subjective concept dictate what is right and wrong.
This could be the lesson Saurfang wanted to teach the horde.
that following a code of honor while not bad in of itself, it leads to nothing but infighting when you build your entire culture, your laws, armies, etc around it.
and by removing this core concept of orc culture will the horde be able to break the circle and thus give the horde races a proper shot at a more peaceful existence.
or maybe I look deeply into the whole matter
I mean the whole ‘‘Mag’har siding with Sylvanas’’ felt just odd since it was basically the Forsaken, the Goblins and the Mag’har that stayed with her.
In Siege of Orgrimmar it was most of the orcs that stayed behind due to their feelings towards Garrosh and the code of honor towards the Warchief.
It just felt off that the Mag’har prioritized the ‘‘Warchief’’ over their own kind but then again they are new and was recruited by Sylvanas afterall.
You’ve kind of answered it yourself.
She was the primus motor of their arrival/rescue to Azeroth, and they did not experience the whole Warchief Garrosh era as the MU Horde did either. Add some old timey Horde ideals to the mix and it doesn’t seem that odd after all.
Or to put it differently: If they had immediately ditched the Horde and Sylvanas to go play at rebellion, that would have been odd as all hell.
Technically that would’ve been Eitrigg who was the primus motor of their arrival/rescue but he was chained up.
Nonetheless I just think the whole situation would come off as weird no matter what they would’ve done and it shows the complicated situation of ‘‘Orcish Honor’’.
Talking about Eitrigg, he should’ve been the Nazgrim of this expansion.
Just off him already and let Geye’rah and some other younger Orc hero(es) take the damn spotlight already.
Eitrigg has literally never done anything noteworthy, how can you possibly have any problems with him?
Eitrigg: nothing. literally nothing
Moridunum: KILL HIM OFF!!!
He’d never have gone if Sylvanas wasn’t actively recruiting for the Horde. But I digress, the point remains.
I’ll go ahead and agree that if they insist on involving Eitrigg, it’s probably time for him to face the music and go out on a suitably orcish high note. Failing at that, he should just retire from an advisory position and go enjoy some peace and quiet.
Maybe build a farm or something, Thrall seemed to think that was a cool retirement plan.
Why though? He hasn’t done anything since the Second War, when he Himself left the Horde due to it’s corruption.