It should give a chance of loot, not insanely high but at least something. It’s time consuming so it’s not like you aren’t working for it.
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by “loot” I’m guessing you mean ilvl upgrades?
would 171 be fine or do you expect epics?
should fishing also reward gear? I mean after all, you’re working for it
some better reward at the end would be great, or if you atleast clear 5 wings a week you would get a chest whit an item next week, now it is just for soul ash pretty much, so some reward would be great.
and less trash lol, and instead put in mini bosses here and there.
At this point you’re trolling and baiting. No one is asking for free stuff and I’m fact torghast is content that consumes time so it’s not “free”
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so does fishing. the problem is there’s two types of content in WoW:
those that give you ilvl upgrades and those that don’t.
the importance of those that do is infinite and the moment it doesn’t, it becomes completely irrelevant. hence why blizz is so stingy with which content rewards how much gear.
If you think people will stick around in such a frustrating expansion (the expansion is great , the drop rates are not) you’re blind. People will leave once they see how hard it is to get gear
as opposed to people fully gearing up their character in a week, then complaining there’s nothing to do and how blizzard is evil by trying to make them “stick around” by time gating the game.
There could be a middle ground ? This is going from one extreme to the other
and where would that be? if torghast drops incrementing ilvl rewards to stay relevant for the next 1.5 years, it will make M+ and the current raid tier completely irrelevant.
if anything, I can see it as a replacement for catchup mechanics for alts, like timeless isle gear. but giving it relevant ilvl rewards you should be getting from mainstream content like M+ and raids would be an epic fail
Then make both of these activities have a decent drop rate
Off topic, but every few months? Pfff, easy, a lot of women wax half their body WAY more ofter lol
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How about making Torghast and similar a non mandatory customizable zone, like visions (in terms of being able to chose the difficulty), where you could have picked the difficulty, where rewards scale, where the challenge scale based on the size of the group (1 to 5) and the roles involved (dps, tank, healers) and you can even choose between a number of layers, a number of floors per layer, a number of themes and colors and vibes? And the reward is also more or less under player control, you can cash out at certain points or risk for more.
Would that be to much fun and to much player control over the game?
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Comparing fishing to actual combat content that isn’t total faceroll is such a great comparison.
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I think Torghast itself is fine. The issue is that we have to clear sooooo many levels just to keep up to scratch with our Leggos.
Like seriously, why on earth would they force us to clear the same old floor 100 times? Oh right, coz then we’re engaged with the game, and that looks good to shareholders.
It really isn’t. The idea for Torghast is from the million other Rogue-like games out there, it’s nothing like Diablo beyond random level generation.
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whether it’s dailies, weeklies, valor farming from dungeons, raids, or simply time gating- people will always complain.
at this point I’m surprised blizz doesn’t simply flip a coin
It’s more a rip off of Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High in Final Fantasy XIV with a Diablo skin tbh.
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I´m guessing you already got banned for the posts in this Thread, so I wont comment on the insult.
Might I suggest something though? You need to get a bit more openminded. You wont convince someone or even convey an opinion if you dont follow the primal rules of discussion. Thats why I say for a long time now that debate-team in school has to be mandatory. Everyone should learn how to converse properly.
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What do you mean?
People’s bis are locked behind klayer 3+.
Ash system is lousy. Crafting system arouhnd is lousy. Some classes die in 1 hit in group play, even in single play cause you got to many mobs you need to interrupt and you dont have the tools to do so.
Take a deep look at FFXIV havensward deep dungean.
A real deep look and you see what its done.
This isnt about equalise in nerfs.
Blergh, and why should tha affect raiding?
should fishing also reward gear? I mean after all, you’re working for it
FFishingg gets alot more then just working towards nothing… lmao
It’s more a rip off of Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High in Final Fantasy XIV with a Diablo skin tbh.
No, Cause with FFXIV you start fresh, lvl 1 in that No baseline class toolkit.
I like it, however, it has two major flaws:
- You are not saved to the last completed floor if you leave during a run.
- It has no catch up mechanic.