Shadowlands was fun until

[Jazew-turalyon]

@Annaconda-ragnaros

should fishing also reward gear? I mean after all, you’re working for it

You can’t compare fishing with Torghast, a dungeon-like fairly time consuming and potentialy hard activity and still have a straight face. Seriously…
By your standards there should be no gear rewards what so ever outside of raids and M+ then.

[Raiden-stormscale (Raiden)]

I bet that doesn’t like it are the people that cant finisht it

[Syel-drakthul]

Issue with Torghast is - promised to be infinite
what we really got - 5 floors 8 stages

To be honest if I could go right now and do infinite Torghast I would do it again and again, because that is the thing I was looking for, this thing that Torghast is now, is very much disappointing

[Rakuraì-twisting-nether]

unless wait for it you find it fun…

[Vilketnamn-draenor]

What a preposterous concept!

[Rakuraì-twisting-nether]

i dont think you can connect people enjoying a part of some content to automatically loving blizzard and therefore making you the right in the conversation you end up sounding as a mad person on twitter just calling people Trump supporters becouse they disagree with them

[Rakuraì-twisting-nether]

you are allowed to not do content if you dont feel like its rewarding i for one dosent do pet battles since i dont find them rewarding enough

[Rakuraì-twisting-nether]

Thats called Twisting Corridors and is coming out in next reset

@anon93480166

Imagine if they took dungeons and turned them into random structures that make absolutely no sense from any design or functional perspective, added even more trash, added a random buff system that could make or break your ability to kill the final boss, and then removed all the loot so there is no anticipation of gaining something fun or useful for your time spent.

Everything can sound like trash if you try to portray it that way
Just like “Im an accountant for a multi millon company” which really is just working at a MacDonalds taking money from orders. sounds alot better at first right?

@Graytail-azjolnerub

Implentation.

Deep Dungean in Havensward(FFXIV) doesnt just have loot. ts a real roguelike experience that unlike in Thorgast, actually had purpose. It was alot more fun when it was newly implentated. It had its seperate leveling systerm, how you build a character and what not.

It didnt rely on a full base toolkit that thorgast relies on and some wings are significantly harder then others.

Mort Regar is so far the hardest wing I have played and the most unbalanced wing to say took.

Fun how you told me that noone liked the Final fantasy version on another forum post seems like your oppinion has changed

[Deciael-tarren-mill]

Torghast is fun. tho i never play it alone, and that is what makes it fun for me, maybe you should try running it with some friends/guildies and see if that makes it better. If not, just grind the first layer and save up on your soul ash. wait for the lego things to become cheaper and more avalable and dont worry so much about the legos (if that is what you are worried about)

[Jurgenhan-quelthalas (Jurgenhan)]

Torghast is fine if you were not FORCED to do it, like you have to with the covenant campaign. If people love it fine, so be it, but it should be a choice.

To me the worst things about Shadowlands are:

1. The long time it takes to fly between zones , why do we have to go through Oribos each time?? Portals should be around to get from one zone to another

2. The Maw, specifically not being able to mount in the Maw. I can understand the lack of flying and waiting for pathfinder, but not being able to use ground mounts is ridiculous.

3. Too many currencies. Once again we have a glut of currencies that will be irrelevant once this expansion ends. Why can we not have some type of currency exchange? It would definately help with the tons of currencies we seem to acquire with each expansion

[Deciael-tarren-mill]

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

if you were not FORCED

well, you arent. simple.

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

The long time it takes to fly between zones

Remember flying in vanilla? i do, SL is at a max 3 min flight. Cant you wait 3 min or go to the bathroom in between? HS is also only 15 min = halfing your flight.

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

The Maw, specifically not being able to mount in the Maw.

/playing small violin

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

Too many currencies.

i guess. But you could say that about almost every expantion.

[Ilyrian-draenor (Ilyrian)]

2 man it.
dps/healer
You’re welcome.

[Vilketnamn-draenor]

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

The Maw, specifically not being able to mount in the Maw

The Maw just sucks straight up. Not being able to mount is the least of the problems with that zone.

[Twiggz-bloodhoof]

basically what they need to do with torghast is give us multiple things to work for in the runs … which is not soul ash… as we are basically Azerite power island farming right now…

even if its a weekly ilvl 200+ item … for completing so much torghast in the week…

the bar fills as you do layers… you get a item … it resets to 0% and u go again…

just add something worthwhile to the bloody thing … as soul ash is worthless when we can only use 1 or 2 legendaries.

[Jurgenhan-quelthalas (Jurgenhan)]

@Deciael-tarren-mill

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

if you were not FORCED

well, you arent. simple.

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

The long time it takes to fly between zones

Remember flying in vanilla? i do, SL is at a max 3 min flight. Cant you wait 3 min or go to the bathroom in between? HS is also only 15 min = halfing your flight.

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

The Maw, specifically not being able to mount in the Maw.

/playing small violin

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

Too many currencies.

i guess. But you could say that about almost every expantion.

Are you telling me you are not FORCED to do Torghast as it is part of your covenant campaign?? You cannot advance in the covenant campaign until you do those 6 levels.

[Deciael-tarren-mill]

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

Are you telling me you are not FORCED to do Torghast as it is part of your covenant campaign?? You cannot advance in the covenatn campaign until you do those 6 levels.

what are you talking about? You are only “forced” to save bain and jaina (so far) and those were layer 1 difficulty.

[Jurgenhan-quelthalas (Jurgenhan)]

@Deciael-tarren-mill

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

Are you telling me you are not FORCED to do Torghast as it is part of your covenant campaign?? You cannot advance in the covenatn campaign until you do those 6 levels.

what are you talking about? You are only “forced” to save bain and jaina (so far) and those were layer 1 difficulty.

They are not layer 1 difficulty for some. I have had some guild mates fail that quest. In fact if you go on Wowhead forums for that part of the campaign you see many players are complaining about being stuck in that part of the campaign.

There are many people who are casuals in the game and simply want to do the main storyline and whatever else they have to do. Torghast will not be for everyone and it should be optional, not part of something you have to do in order to progress in the story of the game.

[Deciael-tarren-mill]

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

There are many people who are casuals in the game and simply want to do the main storyline and whatever else they have to do. Torghast will not be for everyone and it should be optional, not part of something you have to do in order to progress in the story of the game.

whats next? “tHis QuEsT iS tOo dIfFiCuLt, ReMoVe fRoM gAmE”
I dont have to look it up on wowhead, i know there are noobs in the game who cant even press buttons or read what some abilitys do.
Im also a casual player and i found it easier then layer 1.

[Jurgenhan-quelthalas (Jurgenhan)]

@Deciael-tarren-mill

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

There are many people who are casuals in the game and simply want to do the main storyline and whatever else they have to do. Torghast will not be for everyone and it should be optional, not part of something you have to do in order to progress in the story of the game.

whats next? “tHis QuEsT iS tOo dIfFiCuLt, ReMoVe fRoM gAmE”
I dont have to look it up on wowhead, i know there are noobs in the game who cant even press buttons or read what some abilitys do.
Im also a casual player and i found it easier then layer 1.

Actually Blizzard has made some changes to quests due to players complaining about difficulty but that is another post for another day. I have no problem with Torghast but going there or doing anything there should be 100% optional.

It should be like pvp/warmode that is 100% optional. Some people simply do not want to do that type of content.

[Deciael-tarren-mill]

@Jurgenhan-quelthalas

I have no problem with Torghast but going there or doing anything there should be 100% optional.

What i just read was “I cant handle torghast, so im gonna complain untill i get what i want” but hay, you do you.
GL HF im out.