So for those who don’t know, if you use shadowmeld just before a projectile lands on you, you can “vanish” said projectile, completely immuning it. It’s currently not the case on retail.
I’ve tried this NUMEROUS times, and after reporting it via the ingame bug report tool pointlessly for weeks now, I decided to take some clips from my twitch.
I suggest watching them in 0.25x speed if needed
Clip 1 : I meld a bit before the projectile lands. There’s no dots tick or anything preventing the meld from working
https ://clips.twitch.tv/RoughAstuteJackalBibleThump-7nuPeGd4ZXiWJsD9
Clip 2 : I meld as late as possible just to see if different timers would change anything. Spoiler, it doesnt.
https ://clips.twitch.tv/VibrantDifferentPelicanMrDestructoid-kLklxE5Y4uLBMmRk
This is making me regret picking nightelf, seeing as this is the only race with a non functional racial currently.
Edit : Had to add a space between the “htpps” and the “:” since I’m not allowed to post links - remember to remove said space for the link to work
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So as far as I know that interaction wasnt ever how it was supposed to work in reality, it was a artifact of the spell batching that was in the game (we had batching until WoD in retail), now it will be a 10 ms window you have where you can use shadowmeld to eat a projectile (the same batch window that retail have now as far as I can tell) while back in the day you had something closer to what people thought were bad in classic to begin with, the batching was there to make it so that even if you lagged your interactions could still go through.
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This is factually wrong, as to this day, on wotlk classic, you can shadowmeld spells. It works, just 1 in 10 times, regardless of timers on the spell batching.
See the following clip in x0.25 speed, taken from Wotlk classic, in fact the very same day those other 2 clips were made
https ://clips.twitch.tv/KathishCogentAmazonTheTarFu-Pq3BMxogE48XrDpi
You can clearly see me melding the Lava burst.
It’s just incredibly clunky, just like hunter traps currently are, where arming time is random, and tick rate is random, meaning sometimes traps arm in 1 second, sometimes in 3, sometimes they will trigger sometimes they won’t. The same bullsh*t logic is being applied to shadowmeld as it stands, and I personnaly don’t like my endgame pvp to be random based on if the server decides to work properly or not
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it works perfectly it was meant to be like that you have to time it right same goes with vanish for rogues if you press it too early you will still get hit its the retail where you have easy mode on when you just have to press vanish or shadowmelt but on wotlk you have to time it correctly or you will still get hit just a skill issue i see
Feel free to watch all 3 clips before posting. The range from the spell about to land in clip 1 and clip 3 is the exact same. It just doesnt work reliably because lag. On clip 2 I legit press it 0.01 second before the spell lands and it still ticks. Even if spell batching was 10 ms I would have melded it.
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all i can read is “hope blizzard wont fix this so i can keep landing obvious coils in arenas on night elves at 1k mmr”
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yeah im not going to watch all that im sorry that happened or im happy for you
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it works sometimes in regards to vanishing/eating spells, but i’m not quite sure what triggers it.
i think its slightly different from how it worked in the past though. i think you have to meld abit later than you usually would (after the spell goes off rather than before or at the same time). not sure if spell travel time is a variable in any of this.
So you’re posting that it’s the intended behaviour without even looking at the behaviour ? Thanks for proving my point, you’re free to go wipe on murlocs and let adults discuss the problems thanks
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saw first clip he did shadowmeld close to coil touching him he also had dots on also you have to time it correctly in which this case he didnt so whats your excuse lag?
You realise dots have to TICK for it to matter, watch the clip again, realise they tick before he melds, process this information, come back, and post again.
THEN, before you post again, watch 3rd clip where shadowmeld works just fine even though he melds it just as the spell is about to land, just like he did in the first clip.
Realise you’re wrong, move on with your life.
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I am not night elf in Wrath but I mained night elf for a long time in retail. A lot of it doesn’t just come down to timing, but the other player’s latency and if the server likes you that day.
I have been in a kidney while meld was up at the same time, and then other days when my timing is the same, I will actually immune the kidney. Same goes for hunter traps. In fact when a player stacks on you, the odds the hunter gets the trap is higher than 50% for whatever reason, so this game even in retail is clunky.
With this interaction, it is too difficult to rule out things like latency and timing.
sorry to hear that your rogue or hunter got coiled at 1k mmr i would never do that since im not at 1k mmr but yeah how wotlk works is that either you shadowmeld on right time or you dont its not retail where you can just press button and you avoid the spell/hit so as i said it needs more practice thats all you can keep talking about 1k mmr but idk whats happening down there since im no way close to 1k mmr its just too low since u start at 1.5k+ idk how you end up at 1k mmr but hope u get out of there best of luck <3
That’s my point though, I don’t want my race balance (or my class in case of traps), to be balanced around a coin toss to decide wether the server is gonna allow my spell to work as intended or not. That’s like saying a warrior’s charge will land you at your target 50% of the time, and do nothing the other 50% of the time.
Those mechanics are detrimental, and they need to work flawlessly or endgame pvp is not a thing.
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copium, sure thing bro u can pm Dahzle on warmane we can wargame anytime soon
Didn’t you just post on another thread about how you can’t find an arena mate on your server though ? Why are you making up an arena experience that you do not have ?
Your 3 posts on this thread were litteraly :
- This is intended behaviour, skill issue.
- I actually didnt watch the clip so I don’t know if this is intended behaviour, but I don’t plan on seeing them.
- Actually I watched the first clip, you had dots so that’s why - Despite the dots not ticking during the meld.
Please stop embarassing yourself and go post somewhere else. I’m trying to improve the game and get bugs fixed while you’re trying to prove to the world that IQ can in fact be room temperature.
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shadowmeld not dodging every attack is not bug its timing issue and you can keep asking blizzard to fix that “bug” but thats how it was meant to work back in wotlk the way you want to work is newer version of it which is on retail so please actually stop embarrassing yourself i bet you will start making posts about chaos bolt piercing cloak of shadows ; deterance & ams too while not knowing how the spell actually works peace good luck with fixing your “BUG”
as i said that is a private server with lots of bugs and if you really want to “demonstrate skills” we can face in arenas on wotlk classic once you reach high rating of course also your 2.3k on warmane is on a server with 1500 population so that means theres not many good players & probably repeating teams too at higher ratings so facing same team over & over proves nothing also arenas & dueling (wargame) is different thing you dont go in other games and compare 1v1 in a 5v5 team-based game do you? but i assume you do since you think dueling will determine any skill in a team-based arena games lol also just move on youre really embarrasing yourself right now mr private server godx
on starter gear ofc