Shaman's Purge

you mass doters from horde (warlocks, Spriest, mage living bomb, druids) just scared to waste your mana on a wall of alliance’s totem. that’s why you don’t want alliance get shamans, not for “vanilla spirit” class faction exlusivity

Just pop a bunch of rank 1 buffs and see Shaman OOMing themselves purging in 10 seconds.

"sht ! my pompyro got kicked by a totem ! "
"sh
t ! my sheep got kicked by a totem ! "
"sh*t ! i misstarget my dot on a totem ! "

you only horde players need to live these situation, you big mouths

SoD is buildt for this dwarf shaman and undead paladin, let’s go BLIZZ !

Instead, Horde have to deal with Paladins that can hold off that objective cap against 3 people for half a minute and/or are practically unkillable god healers in PvP down the road and can completely shut down physical damage and much of the CC on a party member at will.

It’s really “grass is greener” moment there. You can bet, you have Horde rage at something like BoP plenty too.

So yeah, Shamans have purge and totems. But in my opinion, as far as PvP goes - Paladins are simply better than Shamans straight up, ESPECIALLY in SoD.

In true classic wow this is correct, but this is Season of Discovery, not true classic wow and in Season of Discoery Shaman’s most potent contribution, which is Windfury, Druids can now give passively. Thus, immediately the notion that Shamen are a more significant tilt in the factional balance is very easily shown to be untrue.

As for the hyper obession over Purge. You said it yourself, another class has the same ability. And remarkably enough that other class, Priest, are considered overtuned Not because they can dispel, but because of other reasons, such as Penance. A likely contribution to this is that Shaman really don’t have anything in their kit currently that is all that impressive. This is something you can find out for yourself with a quick trip to Warcraft Logs. Shaman are among the worst classes in the game for their damage output, at any percentile, especially Elemental. Contrast this with, for instance, Paladin, who beats both specs soundly at every single Percentile and it forms the picture that Paladins are certainly more overtuned than Shaman are presently.

In regards to your assertion that the bubble is meaningless, it enables the Paladin to reset their health, Which they can easily do during the bubble duration. If you are genuinely of the opinion it’s practically useless then how would you react to the notion that Warriors should get Shattering Throw again? Other people are complaining about bubbles which suggests it needs an answer. If the paladin’s perspective is that Bubble is, as you put it a “silly little bubble” then giving people a counter to it makes the community feel better and doesn’t bother paladins, right…?

The point regarding the bubble, or Lay on Hands, if you prefer, is that Paladins have the most powerful defensive cooldowns in the game as part of their base class. With Runes also now providing Paladin’s with a powerful offensive kit. This is having your cake and eating it too. You can’t have the best defense and one of the best offensive capabilities and be balanced. This much really ought to be obvious.

As for

This is absolute fabrication you appear to be trying to push as some sort of consensus. The best were considered to be Sub Rogues, Arms Warriors and Frost Mages. Not that this should matter at all because, I’ll say it again. This isn’t Classic WoW. This is Season of Discovery. What holds true for actual Classic WoW has little more relevence than what holds true for WotLK classic WoW or Retail even, in relation to Season of Discovery. Zero.

paladin can’t move while healing, and get kicked every 5sec by a shaman

BoP can be purged

ONLY in SoD* , 20years of being laughed at, paladins can do something and are not “better” than shamans

if you go far as this, don’t search why you are bald

Since you’re clearly loaded, while I don’t really give a fudge, I’ll just sum up your points with a single sentence:

Almost everything in Vanilla has a counter, does not mean that counter is readily available at all times.

Shamans do their thing and Paladins do theirs and both are pretty damn good at being annoying AF.

Now you can take that and mald about it another 20 years, or simply realize that yeah - purge ain’t going anywhere and move on with your life.

and i add this: 80% of when i used bubble as a paladin healer, there was just 4-5 horde laughing around me just waiting to kill me

the bubble argument have no value

“KEK” as they said :rofl: :sob:

BLIZZ give us shamans please ! i want to teach this horde how to play ! :rofl:

If you put yourself in a 4v1 situation, then it has no value.

But when it’s 3v2 or some such around a cap point and need to hold those another 20-30 seconds before backup arrives, having an immortal healer is pretty damn big.

You know what happens to a Shaman that is surrounded by 4-5 alliance? They evaporate at like 3rd second.

Might be a skill issue

i can last longer around a cap as a rogue or even with my warrior using protwall / fear / …

I wonder why you people keep defending shamans as they are the biggest victims of the century… 20years of paladins suffering… 2 weeks of some balance in the game… and shamans cry

“focus the healer” do you know what that means? are you ever played a healer in PvP? i don’t go in their by myself :rofl:

Which has nothing to do with what we were talking about. Therefore I take this to mean you understand that a Paladin of Equal Skill to an opposing Shaman player in any sort of like for like situation is going to win under current conditions.

Incidentally I mained a Priest in Classic WoW so autoing and waiting is part and parcel of the experience to me. If more effective/efficent classes for leveling were a consideration, I think we’d all be playing hunters right now.

one more for you

and paladin have 10sec of “immortality” to /dance and being laughed at before being evaporate…

Please people of Azeroth ! Join me about adding dwarf shamans in alliance and undead paladins in horde for SoD ! SoD is buildt for this !

With all the effort they’ve put into sharing the buffs across factions the default answer is blizzard didn’t plan on adding sha/pal to opposite factions.

But I think they could if they didn’t mind fudging it.
Add totems to a click, complete quest for example.
Reduce the work load of devs, they are clearly stretched on time for SoD if this is all they can manage so far.

I wouldn’t hold my breath though, considering what i’ve just said, they don’t seem like they have a lot of room for development.

If they don’t add this kind of thing early, you can expect never to get it.

Yep and thanks to blizz for the efforts they do in SoD, we in a great vibe with SoD, but they have to do it, they did it in TBC, no reason to not do it for SoD. don’t need aliens and elf to do it. Many things comming soon, it have to be in.

i really enjoy SoD, but if there is no dwarf shaman and undead paladin, i just go to the WoWkiller number2 comming in march 2024 (that dragon’s D game yeah baby)

i challenge you to level a paladin from 1-60 without boosting in Era

Cant clear Sap with tremor mate

TO be honest if you cannot kill a shaman as a paladin it is a huge skill issue simple as that. I literally hoj them and they die in the hoj 9/10 times its is soooooo easy :clown_face:

You do know priests can also dispell right? Purge is just a worse version of priest dispell, so alliance in fact, does have purge, the better one :slight_smile:

No changes?

SoD Completely changed everything in classic? Lol. how can u say No changes when this much change has happened? XD