all that even before TBC classic
20k+ HKS on this rogue (currently rank01)
20k+ HKS on my warrior (currently rank11)
20k+ HKS on my paladin (currently rank10, rank11 tomorrow)
and i never had rank14, while people with less than 1k HKS got their rank14 with new system AV 24/7 DrekVandar farm
SHAME ON YOUR STUPID HONOR SYSTEM BLIZZARD