With the BG system released in Classic most realms have this small(relative) group of players that have taken upon themselves to create exclusive discord servers to manipulate the PvP brackets.
These groups manipulate the brackets in the way of making limits of honorgain for each week and cherrypick the players within the group whom will get a place in top bracket each week. If you as a nonmember of these groups would play more than them and snatch one of those spots you will see yourself blacklisted, frowned upon and not accepted in to any good premade groups etc. Total freeze out.
Should this really be accepted by blizz? Especially when they have started coalitions crossrealm to even further limit the competition between themselves and to make sure no player that is not within their control can get a spot.
Me personally see this on the same level as wintrading. Thoughts?
Classic design philosophy was making the game in a way so that you play together. Teaming up to pvp and setting a goal (rank) is in the design philosophy from that time. If you want to be a solo player go to retail
I see this as a social mechanic.
Yes, you will have to interact and coordinate with other players.
Yes, planning for this since the launch of server will help those who did.
Yes, they will get an advantage from being socially adept.
No, I don’t agree with you that this is wintrading.
Its just a good thing. Understand that those that setting the brackets would get on top anyway, the idea is to keep it as low as possible so u have to play as little as possible. If you tried to get more, they would get more.
Sadly after all these years, Blizzard still hasn’t found ways to deal with the cheaters and the exploiters and the honest players are suffering. It’s kinda like in real life and it sucks.
With the current av meta bracket manipulation is not worth it. Some random nolifer can always break it since he can just soloque av all day. If the av meta stops because of longer ques (hopefully if most ppl are exalted they will stop queing av) the wsg and later ab premades have more power with their bracket games.
Not true. The upper limit of what you can get from just solo queueing is probably just above 200k a day or so, meaning you can’t compete with a premade.
And to be on topic, there is absolutely nothing wrong with bracket stacking. If you’re playing enough to be in contention for a high bracket spot, but you’re being excluded, you probably only have yourself to blame for doing something you weren’t supposed to, since it only gets easier the more people that are in on it.
If the solo player finds a way to snipe premades (and all that requires is someone on any server streaming premades with low enough delay), he could leech all their honor plus farm extra in the middle.
Pvp-mafia then? Since they form a Cartel and harass people not sticking to their rules (or exclude them from pvp community)
I get that people want to play less for higher rank, but there will always be some randoms to compete against who use mobile apps when at work and continue to play when at home. Not all rankers want to join up
I’ve met some of these premades and besides a macro telling players that they are a premade and giving instructions on how to proceed towards the faction’s boss I have not seen any form of harassment from them (unless you consider “do not cap [xyz]” as harassment) so it’s safe to say that not every premade does this.
What I meant was. Say you hit 2million honor one week and your not even above rank 10. Soon whispers will flood in from rankers that you can’t play that mush and destroy for everyone else. You don’t understand what all the fuzz are about and continue to farm heavily.
After some ranking up you decide “maybe I want to join premades”.
No, your blacklisted for everyone who is of higher rank so they won’t play with you because they joined the mafia and hate your guts
Something like that (this is players from your faction, on your server, who see every honor you gain from honorspy)
Players that wish to be a part of a premade but can’t join already existing ones always have the option to make their own. Isn’t that what the players of the currently existing premades have also done?
How reliably can you get into av as a premade? I talked to a top ten ranker on my server a few days ago and he said soloqueing av is the way to go. Did the meta change a bit already?
What’s the problem with that? They set up premades and expect you to follow rules if you want to join. If you don’t want to follow those, nobody stops you from setting up your own premades with blackjack and stuff. Of course that other coalition won’t like you but that’s to be expected.