right now i am solo clearing these tier 11 delves with ease on my windwalker monk (item level 611 , 634) so i am asking all of you who are playing a different class on how difficult you find them to be to get a more clearer perspective on how challenging they should be.
also the rewards are rather lame, 639 itemlevel is kinda average tbh.
i dont know, maybe its just that windwalkers are too op for delves or something?
The gilded delve cap should be removed imho and that should be enough. it takes 3 weeks to get enough gilded crests for 1 max crafted and that means you canāt spend any crests on normal upgrading aswell. It just feels petty.
Delves are way too easy to allow that, though. If anything delves give too much reward for their current difficulty. Itād be fine if they made harder delves and then put gilded in those, I suppose, but right now itās very rewarding for very little effort/skill.
I actually like the fact that I can clear T8 delves on my alts and get champion/hero gear for the current season pretty quickly.
And yes, windwalker monks are probably too op for delves, I have a couple of alts and some of them are way stronger in delves than the others.
You do something, you get good reward = people cry about it
You do something, you donāt get good reward = people cry about it
You are right! self sustainable dps players have it way easier then dps players who cant sustain themselves for very long.
you also said the rewards are very close by just doing a mythic zero.
mythic zero: 636 (compared to delves T8 or higher: 639)
good observation Koryius, i guess you as ARENT as dumb as you look on your picture!
When did I say anything about rewards?
its meant for fun and for open world players not m+ hardcore sweat lords /raiders just leave it alone and stop trying to change things.
Then there are the thousands of noobs like me, we rarely come here because itĀ“s mostly a waste of time and we get no understanding from the āprosā. Clearing a delve 6 with ilvl 620 with my evoker is a real challenge and I am not really progressing, itĀ“s just the life of a noob ā¦ we just arenĀ“t that good mechanically.
I am feeling doubtful that you did a T8 with 610 gear when my other Prot Pally with 628 gear suddenly had his health munched on the first mob pack.
The jump from T7 to T8 is huge. For 634 itās probably fine. Doesnāt the vault offer better? And you can upgrade those pieces. As Alaric said it is for us filthy casuals otherwise we could just do M0.
11s are a breeze if you do it as healer with Brann set to tank.
with self sustainability such as stuns, self heal and defensive abillties such as fortifying brew, diffuse magic and touch of karma i was able to kill my mobs one by one.
sure, just saying it couldv been more fun to solo gear on my own, thats all.
Rewards are fine for solo-content, i farmed up the mythic tier appearance solo for this character, thatās more than i dared hope for TBH.
As for difficulty, iām finding this season maybe a bit too easy, keeping in mind that it could be because i went into this season quite well-geared (And it has to be doable by fresh 80s, too, so canāt put the base of the difficulty-ramp too high), but in Season 1, it took me a few weeks of gearing to get up to tier 8, but this season iām in tier 8 the first weekā¦
They should be more rewarding; they should not be more difficult.
Currently the whole discussion about reward/effort is always with respect to other modes of gameplay.
Things like this:
And M+/Raid have the exact same issue. Some rewards simply cant be given to M+ players because we can spam those all day, ectā¦
IMO that is wrong. Whatever the difficulty/reward structure of Delves has, it should be decided by Delvers and their playstile. Not by the impact it would have to M+ players and Raiders.
So I propose a partial divorce. A weapon and 2 trinkets that work only in Delves and can only be aquired in delves. Same for M+ and Raids.
That would solve much of these issues.
it is not a content that i care or will be playing so i have no opinion .
Brann as a Tank does amazingly well in T10, more competent than a lot of dps tanks picking up groupsā¦ yet to do 11 though as I ran out of keys. 
Fair enough if you can heal him. Tbf I had Brann as DPS instead of heal, I can probably do a T8 but I donāt really want to concentrate 
I donāt even bother healing him. If he dies I just CC or run around a bit then heās back up at 100% 
Aah interestingā¦ maybe I should try that and go DPS 