Should players who do M+20 or above be rewarded mythic tier weapons?

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Item level has a huge effect on the outcome of pve content.

You really don’t need to do tactics and can brute force your way through the easiest dungeons or low m+ levels or earlier mythic bosses just with item level.

And so I have been thinking, doing M+20s or above doesn’t give any unique reward, and there would be a point where you will have to do Mythic raids in order to progress in M+ ( Once you reach maximum Ilvl attainable from M+ only ) you probably will want to turn to Mythic raids for the Maximum attainable weapon ilvl, which for some classes makes up a huge portion of your dps.

I feel like M+20 or above should start dropping Mythic ilvled weapons atleast, +20 is arguably as hard as Mythic raids if not harder at some points, as someone who doesn’t raid anymore I feel like it would be in good nature to make the M+ scenery be as good as mythic raiding if you push the right lvls.

There could also be another way to do this where weapons dropped at +20 would have a unique M+ only modifier that makes them as strong or stronger than Mythic tier weapons in M+.

Just my two cents on the issue, love you all, what do you think? should M+20 or some high M+ lvl start dropping stronger gear / unique gear / Something to strive for ?

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I actually love this gif so much

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To be fair, who hasn’t :rofl:

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You mean the abusers? Yes there are ways to abuse in every dungeon and do +15 like its +5 just like that.
Ask the horde people from Twisting Nether.
Few got banned for that kind of thing.
My advice is to not keep on doing this exploit or your account might get in trouble.
Lel who am I talking to? Do what you want.

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What are you talking about? does beating +20 makes you an abuser or did you post in the wrong topic ?

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+20 and higher should award mythic level loot

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It’s not something I would come down hard on either side for.

I get why it could be an added incentive to push higher keys though for those that don’t see the point outside of epeen…

But I also think it could upset a few fairies that won’t feel special anymore…

I generally don’t push much past +10 depends on group if I can get mostly guildies I’ll try to push a little, mostly because from a rewards perspective there is nothing.

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Well M+ and Mythic raiding connect with each other in very weird ways.

M+ makes mythic raiding very easier and rewards much more gear than mythic raiding, spaming mythic plus all week long has a much higher chance to get you a 425 slot ( Max ilvl atm ) than simply doing mythic raiding.

I’ve been loving pushing M+ a lot, and the large abundance of gear is nice, however it kinda feels weird that if I decided to say want to push for +25 I’d reach a point where I wanna do mythic raiding to get me that nice ilvl capped weapon.

Blizzard did an amazing job in Antorus when they implemented Raid only gear specially when that raid only gear was also very useful in M+.

I think they should build up on that, make M+ gear and Raiding gear be abit more unique, not useless in other areas but have a " Edge ".

That’s why I proposed equally powerful gear at +20s as a starting point which is as accessible to the player base as mythic raiding and probably within the same levels of difficulty.

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I honestly think no mythic raider would be upset with this. Most mythic raiders I know just don’t like titanforging because it is nothing you worked for and solely relies on RNG.

Besides, since when are you not allowed to feel good when you have better gear than other people. Isn’t that a good thing? It gives players an incentive to play high-end content. If you don’t do high-end content, be it high arena ranks, mythic raids or high keys you don’t deserve and don’t need above hc levels of loot, as simple as that.

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Well to be honest, M+ is supposed to be self-sufficient in terms of an alternative to raids for the purpose of gearing your toons. Continuing in that respect, a certain level of dungeons could be considered a threshold past which the end-of-dungeon loot has base ilvl same as mythic BoD. Now whether that level should be 20 or something else I’m not sure, but 20 does sound fair.

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No

I even think its a mistake, that M+ gives the same Itemlevel as Heroic Raids.
M+ should supplement Raids or the PVE Experience.

People should be rewarded more for having the bigger logistical challenge to assemble more people to master content.

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Amen to that, it’s complete trash and puts you in a state where obtaining BiS is actually impossible…

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Anybody who is doing +20s probably has already got mythic tier loot.
Kind of a pointless change but sure.

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Debatable. Enemies hit harder but there are much less mistake possibilities with 5 people than with 20. I have guildmates who do >+15 regularly, while we’re still at 2/9 mythic because it’s easier to create a solid 5 man group than a 20 man.

Also, there’s always the issue of m+ being endlessly repeatable.
Maybe a token to upgrade ilvl on the weekly cache for very high keys?

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High Level PVP should also reward something

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What thats as crazy as asking for vendors!

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no we all dont, still do not even have warforged weapons :frowning:

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Weapons do warforge but not titanforge.
I have no problem with mythic loot for +20’s…

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I know they do, I meant that I personaly who do 20’s dont have a weapon over 400. The Joy of RNG loot eh?

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there is no big difference between 410 weapon from chest and 415 from raid boss, also vast majority of people doing 20s doing mythic raid as well.
Blizzard would better add transmog sets, for all +10 recolor of hc set, for all +15 recolor of mythic set, for all +20 new unique set for big bois to show themselves off.

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