here’s hoping he doesn’t come back, and every alliance player gets a letter saying “Anduin the Rockin’ King died on the way back to his home planet” and we never speak of him again.
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Anyone who read the Sylvanas book would not consider this thing to be serious. Sylvanas would have to a severe Alliance Weeb to do it. Which she is not. At least for as long as Christie Golden has anything to say about it.
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It’s unlikely she will return from the Maw and (re)join the Blood Elves either though…even when she will have fully redeemed herself and even in the case she would be forgiven by everyone for what she did as Banshee Queen, I am not sure she would want her old job as Ranger-General in Quel’thalas (and Nathanos could return in Lordaeron too?) and that the Sin’dorei people would really welcome her back anyway, although just for being Sylvanas, she probably would have much more visibility and a much more important role as a Ranger-General than Halduron of course… 
but even if her behaviour fully returned like the one she had as a living Ranger-General, she never was truly part of the Sin’dorei society anyway, so that could be problematic…
Of course not. The book itself was a journey about the change. Alleria got what she wanted. Lived in torment through her years in Quel’thalas, feeling shaclked by her own people. Now she is someone who can barely even be recognized as an Elf from Quel’thalas.
Sylvanas also got what she wanted. She freed herself from everything that Thalassian people stood for. She also wasn’t great fan of the concept of society in general. Rules, traditions, establishments and governments. She loathed all of it. She loved to out in the woods with nothing but her bow at her side, hunting a prey. With slight exception to her boy toy Nathanos.
Now she can do it for all of eternity. There is nothing to stop her. And even when she finds her ‘Human Pet’ as Liressa Windrunner named Nathanos, Sylvanas still won’t be able to truly be with him. As he will stand before the new Arbiter and be sent to his respective zone in Shadowlands. (I assume it will be Revendreth.)
In order to be with him for all of eternity, Sylvanas would have to truly kill herself too. So no. I do not think she will be back in Azeroth any time soon…If ever at all.
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I have a feeling that Sylvanas will return when Illidan returns to be honest as both characters generate a lot of hype for those off the forums (and they seemingly make up the majority.)
Not that I want this urgently though as we need a long break from Anduin, Sylvanas and Tyrande. I truly wish Tyrande wasn’t being used in Dragonflight and that Blizzard just gave the Night Elves their new home as a phased version on Hyjal.
EDIT: Also, despite being the way she is now - she still tells the Horde player, both loyalist and not, to fight for the good of the Horde and to keep it safe. I do hope Sylvanas returns to Azeroth, just not for a long time as we do need a break from her. (As we also need a break from Tyrande, but we’re not as lucky on that score.)
They have basically nothing in common outside being popular so i don’t think it really makes sense for them to be paired together. While Sylvanas still has unresolved presonal threads to explore, while Illidan’s return would without a doubt herald another cosmic fiesta like the one we just got out of.
The loyalist line suggests that she still has allies within the Horde should she ever need trustworthy people to rely on.
Actually Illidan is the father of the Forsaken as an independent and free-will undead faction, while Sylvanas is the mother. Illidan casting that spell with the Eye of Sargeras near Dalaran was able to weaken the Frozen Throne in Northrend so that Sylvanas could eventually free the Forsaken from Ner’zhul’s will and rally them in Lordaeron.
So both should be considered parents of the Forsaken as a faction actually. And since Sylvanas basically already did her part as mother and now left them alone, maybe Illidan should eventually return and lead the Forsaken as their real father (rather than Calia and/or Lilian Voss ), especially considering as a faction, his undead children are not even 18+, considering they were born in the Frozen Throne WC3 expansion (year 22), and now in Dragonflight I believe we will be in year 35, so the Forsaken are just 13 years old undead teen boys and girls and Illidan should take responsibility for them as their father 
I have read the Sylvanas book and finished it recently. I was even thinking about giving spoiler review about it. Too bad the thread about it has been closed.
Anyway. In the end Christie Golden said that book is about family. And Sylvanas by in the final pages made it clear that all she ever wanted now is to meet her dead brother and parents.
She will clear out the Maw. Find Nathanos, send him to the Arbiter and pretty much allow herself to be judged. If anything in this book is to be taken as canon which I think all of it is. Then her story is over. The only thing left is to see when she succeeds in her task and finds some respite.
There is nothing left for her on Azeroth. She said her goodbyes with her sisters. Both Vereesa and Alleria have moved on. Have families of their own. All ever Sylvanas cared for is dead, and so she is.
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uhh what? It’s been 5 years between TfT and vanilla alone including the time skip you’d be proposing that all the expansions and Anduin growing up from a little kid happened in the span of like 5 or fewer years? That doesn’t seem to add up like at all.
It also described her as the kind of character, who will move heaven and hell(literally lol), when she observes some sort of severe injustice by her reckoning, even when soulless(split?). If she is given a significant call to action it’s very likely she would answer. Whether it’s her sisters or something existential regarding the Forsaken, Blelves or Horde as a whole remains to be seen. (could be all of the above simultaneously)
Sylvanas should not return in the story.
I’ll rephrase her:
Begone, then, Sylvanas Windruner. Mey the last whisper of your name fade and be forgotten,
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That is not for you to decide. Sylvanas will return and then we kill the pathetic Horde council and break their hold over the Horde for good.
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A character as big as her doesn’t get to sit on the sidelines forever. Blunt truth is that Blizzard hasn’t managed to create a single new marketable character since Cataclysm and I’ve not seen anything from Dragonflight yet, which would convince me that they’re going to do so now. Unless Microsoft abruptly pulls the plug.
Give her a good 1-2 expansions downtime. People are still mad. and there is no way the current lore team could re-introduce her in a decent way.
But if she does arrive, yes, please have her join the alliance. Take her off our hands. So if she goes wild again you guys can deal with it.
Unless we want to give her the arthus treatment, Kill her have her ears be a trinket and her soul be a currency to give you +50 dragon points.
Well…
I’m done with her!
… allready since a very long time.
To me… I still cant understand how a whole team plus directors of Blizz could have choosen for genocide???
Unforgivable.
Perhaps I will come back to WoW with Dragonflight but Im not sure yet, I did not finish bfa, I switched to classic.
Blizz had too many options to choose for a different storyline, even this was an event leading the story to the Maw and the Jailer, I still Just dont like it.
I can understand they wanted to build the story towards the next exp, but they could have choosen other storielines.
For example, if Blizz had choosen to let N’Zoth corrupt this worldtree, for some reason, and what perhaps could also be a threat to the other Worldtree(s)?
And the NE’s were aware of some corruption? and slowly? evacuating?, discussing? and trying? to heal their tree.
Also the elements and spirits in+on+around the tree were in stress by N’Zoth action/actions?, so they were more fuzzy? Else they would have warned the NE’s about the coming threat from Darkshore, for sure.
And Sylvanas … in her lust for War and hate towards the NE’s, and perhaps also tactical advantage, then rushed to choose to burn it down, then I could have accepted it better.
And the attack could have been faster, with some Goblin airplanes, rockets and stuff, with numerous (the one?) bombs and more with several plagues added.
This is a better WoW story, something like this should have been the story of Sylvanas and Teldrassil.
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Sylvanas is a high elf already, nor do I see what bringing her back to life would accomplish story-wise. If they ever make the decision to go that way, there would need to be a build up and some sort of narrative meaning to the whole affair.
As it is, resurrecting Sylvanas would have no real purpose and would only weaken the character thematically.
Why? Night elves don’t exist, nobody died. One may dislike a story, but I don’t see how fictional genocides per se would be unforgivable.
Why? Night elves don’t exist, nobody died. One may dislike a story, but I don’t see how fictional genocides per se would be unforgivable.
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First… Ethics ofc.
Because, where do you draw a line for yourself, when is it too much?
And second, about the next one we will hear more in the coming years, because research on this matter is ongoing.
It’s about that violence in games, on tv, etc does effect the brain. In China are the rules more strict on this topic, perhaps too strict? I dont know, but everybody has to be much more aware of the impact of this virtual violence on our brains.
Me personal in game, I would love to see professions and crafting be more rewarding.
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For it to be too much it would need to exist in the first place.
Nobody gets hurt in fictional crimes, I don’t see how them existing in fiction would ever become an ethical problem. Unless we start pointing fingers at basically any fiction ever written, since violence and suffering (among many other things that are part of human life and history) have driven storytelling since the dawn of time.
No, it doesn’t. There has never been substantial evidence to support that claim outside wild correlations, which ignore everyone else also playing the exact same game. The only thing consuming specific media can do is highlight already existing issues and preferrences.
As for ethics everyone’s line is different that’s why basically all media outside toddler cartoons advise for viewer discression, with elaboration on what to expect. For WoW it’s “blood and gore, crude humor, mild language, suggestive themes, and use of alcohol and violence.” This issue would fall under violence.
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It depends by the age of who is playing, I guess…a child surely could be negatively influenced, that’s for sure. But usually you are right it shouldn’t happen that easily.
Some videogames were indeed forbidden in the past because “too violent”, even if Europe. I remember Carmaggedon was once and Doom also had problems, despite the victims of the “genocides” of the players were simply undead and demons, but they still weren’t easily tolerated by society because too bloody and violent as I recall correctly.
The negative influences more often come from parents or other role models and questionable core messages of the stories. (For example current girl power stories usually present unhinged narcissism as a good thing)
Yes, however those were higher rated, with according descriptions like blood and gore, intense violence and strong language.
If you were to 1-1 apply real world absolutist morality to everything your character does then you’d be considered an unhinged mass murdering psychopath by the time you reach level 2, in most starting zones.