Maghata never convinced Garrosh to cheat. She just coated his weapon, with venom, when she was meant to bless it. When Garrosh found out about it he was absolutely furious, altho i don’t recall the exact reason why he didn’t go after her.
Ok she didn’t convince him. But it’s still really funny in the context of his double standards about leaders in this game.^^
Cairne was a fierce warrior no doubt. And he moped the floor with garrosh before the poison came in. But the worst about his loss was his replacement. His weak son has often betrayed the Horde for the advantage of the alliance. I think the Tauren community would be happy if he finally kicked the bucket. I remember a poll on mmo champion. He was voted the least popular of all racial leaders.
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So just to be clear. Magatha killed the tauren’s leader than attacked Thunderbluff to kill everyone who didn’t agree with her including the legitimate heir. (what you think about him doesn’t matter btw) You know there is a good term for this behaviour: Treason, and with the worst motives ever.^^
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Magatha is ruthless yes. But she knows what the Tauren truly need. And how to make them prosper. The Grimtotem tribe is propaly by far the tribe with the best warriors the Tauren can muster and they operate similar to the Orcs when they still had their bloodlust. I like that kind of behavior. It is why I like the original Horde before of the time Thrall took over. If Blizzard ever comes back to that theme there could grow something seriously good from it.
Maghata could make for a decent leader, in the correct context, however the benefits she would bring aren’t exclusive to her. Nearly any character could fill that role since, at minimum being better than Baine, who sods off, for years at a time to derp about exotic locales being somewhere between absolutely useless and a massive hinderance is a very low bar to pass.
Well in SL he was pretty pathetic yeah but I liked his arc in BFA somewhat… (considering the boring black/white writing) I mean if he had chosen to stay “loyal” there literally wouldn’t have been any story at all. Just a pointless war opera until Blizzard decides to abruptly stop the whole thing and pull another big enemy out of their butts. But it doesn’t matter anymore. There are some clear signs that this was the last faction war expansion and I’m glad about that. Because in an MMORPG with two factions you can’t let one of them have a big significant victory. Simple
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Of course it matters. The Horde was bamboozled, And did get no payback from Bfa. Until that issue isn’t fixed the faction story is far away from over.
He was always pathetic. And the sooner he dies the faster the Tauren can recover of 12 years of being hold hostage from his passive nonexistence in their lore.
say that again.
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Like I said. It doesn’t matter. You can still wander around the city and do the questlines. The world has been limited by the destruction of darnassus and undercity but now they both are coming back (probably). This whole argument is just pointless beacause gameplay reasons have first priority in this game. I’m just realistic in this case.
It does matter. The Zandalari were reduced from being a global power to mere beggars who have to rely on the Horde to get their problems fixed. Especially the death of Rastakhan and the destruction of the golden fleet has marked them as yet another troll loser tribe who will never have a place in the lore ever again because Blizzard hates Trolls.
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Once again you missed the point so greatly that it’s comical. Ok, for the last time: I play the game. And I see many Zandalary characters every day and also in my scenario groups. Doesn’t really fit your argument that “no one wants to play a “humiliated” race”. For race bonuses someone won’t play Zandalari, there are better races for gameplay reasons. So how can this be that there are still a lot of Zandalari players?
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Vulpera are the most played Horde allied race. Nobody plays trolls. But as I said in another topic. Blizzard would do the Horde a great deed if they gave us Amani.
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Baine and the entire thing regarding Saurfang were big components of the Horde side writing being absolutely pathetic, because their presence within the story actively undermined it’s integrity and tore away at the legitimacy of the conflict, which lead into the copout we ultimately got.
Obviously there are a lot greater issues (literally everything cosmic and Anduinitus), but especially the latter is the deadest horse of Warcraft…
Actually I think there are more Zandalari troll players than Void Elves players right now at this point so they are not in a bad position, even if not as many as the Vulpera.
Unless the Void Elves will get playable paladins, demon hunters or in general more high-elven features in the future (few people really like the void features and story of the Void Elves anyway) , the situation probably won’t change.
There are already more of them then all other allied races combined.
Trolls could be better off. If Blizzard gave us Amani then things might start to look bright again for the Troll community.
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But we had exactly that and it was well balanced
- Horde manages a resounding victory in Kalimdor by taking out the nelf capital
- Alliance forces the Horde to ‘destroy’ (make completely inaccessible) its own capital city in Lordaeron just to prevent the alliance from getting a foothold there.
The issue with the bfa faction war is that nothing happened after that other then a single skirmish on a campaign quest and then some soulless remake of legion invasions
Yes people are still complaining on the forums to this day but forumheads (me included) sometimes need to take a step back and realize just how small of a percentage we are compared to all players. We are not a reliable test so to say. In reality both the blighting of lordaeron and the burning of teldrassil were narratively speaking resounding successes, real loss that isn’t instantly just devalued like its a kingdom hearts character death
Only now are we seeing the start of something new, with blight eaters for lordaeron and the new seed Tyrande was given.
I would also say that without conflict, you might as well not have factions. There has to be conflict of varying degrees, from skirmishes to diplomatic misunderstandings to the occasional full blown war.
Just because blizzard wasn’t able to convincingly make a faction war work in the one expansion where they squeezed 3 seperate expac concepts into one and still burned a lot of development time on borrowed power doesn’t mean that faction wars cannot be told or are inherently bad or not enjoyable. I know this isn’t your arguement but I see the arguement used enough that I wanted to adress it in this post
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Well, if they put sylvannas leading the alliance then im ready to pack my things, time for a third faction, id rather trow myself into the nether then take orders from her
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that sounds like TREASON your lucky that your boi king is such a softy he would probley let you go 
Yeah thats what i hate about him, i was thinking he would become like his father after the war but i was wrong, hes still the peace and forgiving baby he always was sighs
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i mean he has PTSD now so maybe he’ll get some character growth once he comes back from the maw