Was War Mode a flop? I don’t know why they are continuing with it in Shadowlands, but all this multi-zone sharding and phasing, lag and being able to run into a rest area and turn it off is kind of a huge step in the wrong direction.
PvP servers are gone, the danger of leveling is gone, Alliance doesn’t exist in WM and… well… world PvP is dying because of it to the point of extinction.
I know that the intention of War Mode was to incentivise world PvP but for some reason it just killed it and turned it a big mess.
Maybe it should not be removed, but it definitely needs to be reworked. What irks me the most is that War Mode rewards seem only to exist in new content zones, making Azeroth/Outland World PvP completely obsolete and lackluster.
Why are bounties, for example, lost once you go out od BFA zones? There is so much potential that could be done to improve this new feature.
I like that they are adding a mount/title in Shadowlands that are tied to world PvP, but why not incentivize it by adding cosmetics as well? Maybe weekly conquest can be earned through killing individual players in all zones (not only current content ones).
Why are honor levels awarding pets, and why are the rewards so infrequent after level 100?
It just seems like minimal effort and so much lost potential.
No. Because world Pvp should be voluntarily and before blaming warmode, just ask how popular was world PvP begin with and if they’d fix phasing 1st, then maybe we can discuss how balanced things are afterwards.
Also I am sorry to say that, but i feel no pity over gankers, campers and other baddies, who wouldn’t get past 1300 ratings in rated gameplay.
It’s not WM that’s the problem, the issue is more complicated than this.
Running into a rest area to turn it off is great. Why wouldn’t someone be able to defend himself if he’s being ganked by someone overgeared or higher level than him?
Everything PvP in this game at its current form should be removed or reworked. War Mode is a joke. The Arena System is as unfitting for a MMO as it gets. The Honor System was basicly killed and replaced with nonsense at the start of TBC.
There was a perfectly working PvP system in a game, even before WoW was released. The game is (was) called DAoC. Blizzard should have copied the system and adapted it for WoW.
No it shouldn’t, that’s weak casual mentality.
Because it makes sense in a game like Warcraft.
Because it has always existed, and PvE players always found ways around it.
Mostly today they’re still crying about being killed in Warmode because all they want to do is leech rewards.
Open world pvp is insanely fun and even people who don’t like instanced pvp would like it.
They always found ways around it.
Warmode is a flop and a shame.
If you think otherwise you’re mostly bad at PvP.
the danger of levelling did not ever exist these PvP Servers were 100% one faction lmfao, Look at tarren mill… a Server i came from it Litterally had no alliance playing the server, same said for Ravencrest for the alliance.
Killed it? how?.. how was PvP Servers any more successful in Legion? Lol, Warmode was a Attempt to revive it, it simply failed. but it was very dead to begin with… PvP Servers were entirely 1 faction Dominated.
you cant Push WPVP into a game which is entirely one Faction dominated. Alliance Players are bleeding horde by the day, the entire competitive scene is Dominated by Horde, meaning Horde by far have the Most Mythic raiders and more.
Alliance didnt Take WM off because WM Sucks, they took it off because their Surrounded by Mythic raiding Horde players that shred them in flocks lol, I aint saying alliance cant PvP or they’re worse at the game. but When One side dominates the other in both popularity and the competitive scene how is a Alliance player susposed to stand up.
the games Faction balance is completely Lopsided.
only Way ur gonna get WPVP to any degree “Dangerous” is if they turn it into a Free for all and u can kill everyone.
Currently WM Is simply
a Free bonus for Alliance on RP Servers
a Free bonus for horde on Normal Servers.
if your the opposing, its faster to simply switch it off then try and Persist through the butchering.
Warmode as a concept is fine…helps keep people in the Shards they enjoy but in all honesty…PLEASE stop letting people do huge server hops with it, that’s the only problem.
Like restrict it to like 100 yards of a raid boss at most or smth.
They need to allow us to turn it on and off in any main city. Also, when you join a group you should be put in whatever 'warmode setting’the group leader is in.
Horde already heavily dominated what was left of the dying world PVP before warmode was a thing, then they brought it in and millions more horde players piled in for exp gains. WM literally took world PVP and erased it/stabbed it to death.
Horde would turn on WM on all of their alts knowing that through their sheer weight of numbers there was like 90% chance of not ever encountering a WM alliance, least of all one who would have a chance of killing them. And even if they did, cry out in general and hundreds of fellow horde would descent upon that WM alliance like a angry storm.
That was it, there was no way back. Not even buffing the alliance WM benefits helped, it was dead.
Absolutely true, that’s what I call it too. The moment they put EXP gains into it, that was it - they piled in. Giving the horde another biased example.
In what world would one think that was a good idea? You have one faction dominating PVP in all areas then put benefits in to temp them to dominate it even more!