Shuffle changes insane

Yea but they should do something really quick cause every pro complains that 3s is dead and they will listen to twitter more than in these forums.

I remember ppl in bfa wanting solo q and everyone told them a solo mode will never come its a mmorpg that will kill parts of the game hell they were so right.

You are right i wonder how long it will take but its fine add glad mount to it or a diff mount like legend blablbla drake just a recolor Edition or somth.

It’s not their job to decide what the player want to or should play! The player should decide that for themselves and they clearly chose shuffle over regular arena. Just deal with it.

I also see all the pros mostly playing shuffle as well. People who are crying are just a few players who are scared to not get their titles.

It’s not shuffle that killed 3s, its 3s itself that got just replaced by a mode that sticks more with the time.

In what online game with team based PvP don’t you have the option to queue ranked as solo player and get grouped up with random teams? Exactly, most of not all games offer that mode. Why? Because otherwise people wouldn’t play it.

WoW devs took very long to understand that, but they finally did it and see there. It’s a mode that is loved and played mostly. Sure, they might sacrifice 2s and 3s for it for some degree, but that is fine if the majority enjoy the time they would otherwise spend in other games.

It is fine as is. Its not intended as a replacement for 3s, like skirmish are not a replacemente for 2s.
Proof is the only ones complaining are ppl with high rating cause their queue is emptier as many moved to shuffle for the lolz rather than grind rating and title.

And i have nothing against separate titles for the proper arena.

skirms never gave rating people played 2s because it gave rating, now you have mode giving quadruple gains of rating compared 2s / 3s and with less resistance so people do what gives most and 3s are dead and so are 2s

im not against shuffle giving people conq or vault honor and whatever but im against it giving achievements like duelist-elite… etc rival is the max i would ever give for this mode if even that, the ratings from shuffles at this state are pretty much meaningless and just kills the other modes

and whats the use of having friends for pvp if people think shuffle is the future as only way of playing the video game, are we just never suppose to play with other people

i think its 2 more years for pvp in wow and then its riot mmo, i sure hope im not playing this still in 2025 the way the game has been heading for years

There needs to be a rework for lfg like give shuffle glad mount but also real 3s teams and shuffle use it in the same pool so ur premate group just gets 3 rnd ppl on your mmr and than u have to play vs ur own team mates or shuffle ppl 3rnds face 3 premates sometjing like that would insta fix 3v3 issue.

I’ll assume that the way it works is that it will find 6 ppl, and if you are in 2s or 3s game it will pop whenever you will leave it. Before that it will be paused for you.

nope. healers are whats needed in lfg 2s/3s there are enough dps listed. but healers wont/cant list for 2s/3s while in shuff q since it pops insta for them.

It cannot work like this. If you are the center of the universe, yes it could, but you are not, no one is, and in reality there are 5 other players, human beings, involved in the Solo Shuffle match. That means that if it worked like you said, once the game has gathered 6 players including you, it stealth pauses the queue for everyone else than you until you are ready (which may be one minute if you do a skirmish, or 40 if you run a high lvl HoV), despite the fact that a crowd of other DPS is just behind you in q and many of them not engaged in any activity. Taking it one step further, any of the other 5 players could enter another activity than Solo Shuffle while you finish yours (following your assumption that the q is now paused for you 6), and then you go out but someone else is in, etc etc.

You understand why that’s not possible I’m sure.

would be cool if one could do bg’s without the q pausing while in the bg. unrated ofc.
kindof like in the old days where for example a eye of the storm q could pop while in arathi (if i remeber that right).

Yes you have a point. Then i am not sure how it can work. Getting a que pop in mid 3s or 2s sounds really bad too.

There are enough healers who boycott shuffle and only play 2s/3s. Also just checked the tool:

Right now 9 teams with a healer in 3s are looking for a DPS. If I only look onto those teams without a healer, there are 13.

I don’t think the ratio is that extreme, especially since most of the teams without a healer was just 1 dps.

i have 30 teams without a healer to 10 with one.

I guess it goes up and down quite fast. Anyways, I don’t care if regular arena dies out, so I don’t care if it is going to help those players or not. :wink:

i wish the shuffle would die away but i would like see something like 6v6 soloq brawl on its place which can also give rating and have objective but never give rival-duelist-elite-gladiator those belong in the og arenas

i dont want these shuffle achievements or they need to be separate from normal arena and i dont want a 40min que into these shuffles which takes half from ur day to just play few games

You don’t need to play shuffle, you are very welcomed to just stick to regular arena.

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like today i played with friend and pushed to 2kmmr peak and we faced nothing but r1 and +7 seasons glads of 2.7-3k on record from 1900mmr onwards

we ended on 1720cr 1900mmr when it were becoming too sweaty for the night and started getting tired play every match awc on 1900mmr

we still did alright push for the evening, considering 2s are as dead as 3s and have to say i enjoyed my time spent more than playing shuffle with any role on that mode

best part is to get to just spam qs for 2s instead wait 40min qs for shuffles

Great, then play 2s/3s but leave shuffle alone?!

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