Sick of needing a doctorate to understand professions

Why so many options to spend KP and if you chose the wrong one you will make no G ?

Why cant we reset KP?

Why do i need this and that item to craft a specific item and if i dont sink millions into at first to do so i wont be profitable for the rest of the expansion ?

It is not new user friendly at all …

Why is it set up in such a way that the only people making any meaningful G are the ones who had millions from the previous expansion ?

Which proff is the easiest to learn to get me on the goblin train ?

Any guides out there to actually help me ? and not brick me into a build that cant make any G at all ?

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Google is your friend for all the guides related to professions.

For example, open up Google and type "How to make gold with professions in The War Within?. You’ll be surprised with the search results.

YouTube even has tons of videos about which professions made a good amount of gold and how to spend your profession points and in which category. You just need to do the research yourself and not rely on a forum post to give you all that information.

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Professions(and talents) should be made easy enough to understand so you dont need guides to pick a decent setup.

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Yeah I got to agree lol they where a money sink can we not go back to that? Can’t craft as much now and patterns to learn are time gated needing stuff that I’m not sure how to even get lol.

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lol how can u NOT understand proffesion its SUPER super simple this time around + what u really need to learn is the MARKET, not the proffession as faar as i can understand ?

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and its always the same, u gotta look up before expansion start, Which enchants are going to be bis for how many classes, where do they drop, which mats do they need, Do these Mats have other recipes where they are also needed. it is ofc not easy, and if u want to make A LOT of gold early this is the tactic. but for the long haul making some gold every week from concentration theres loads of stuf u can do

I do feel there should be a way to refund them partially, maybe a certain number per week. I understand why they can’t be fully reset at will (to encourage players to specialize), but not being able to ever changed KP is unnecessarily restrictive, I feel.

I agree that professions are too bloated. Not the only thing in the game that is convoluted, mind you. Sometimes less is more, and that applies to quite a few systems here.

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i feel like the simplification they did of proffesions VS DF is almost to much. theres so few interactions now, that u are a full crafter very very fast these days

I just locked myself accidentally into some wrong sub specs last night. 3 clicks that will take weeks and months to make up for because unlocking additional sub specs will take 15 knowledge points each. I hate this system but what I hate even more is that they did absolutely zero iteration on the knowledge point system whatsoever in over 2 years.

Having a system this complicated with no option to undo or redistribute points when it takes months to collect enough time gated points to max out even a single spec tree is insane and beyond stupid.

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Normally I’d agree and even add that “discovering things for yourself is part of the game”, but after dealing with alchemy experiments and wasting…a lot of gold and time… all I can say is: don’t put a SINGLE POINT in any spec until you’ve TALKED to someone whom you trust and who has unlocked most recipes.

The lack of transparency and documentation for vital areas makes it impossible to assess which tree one should go down to and holy Hanna can it be frustrating if you mess up.

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I actually had to pull up the calculator, look at the recipes first, then go through all the sub specs to figure out how many points is the bare minimum I have to put into each sub spec to craft what I need at max quality without wasting any points. I still ended up wasting a few.

It’s crazy that you can’t even get a preview of what you’ll be able to make and what quality before you lock in your points.

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So not simple if you need “look it up” lol…

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Anything that needs a guide is too complex.

These systems need to intuitive and have the ability to backout a change if you something by mistake.

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I missed out on nearly all DF and with professions in TWW Im lost af. For now Im just gathering some herbs but as soon as I get to crafting I fear that’ll mess it up xD
Guides it is…

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Idk, relying on external guides to get through professions seems like terrible (or just very lazy) game design to me. I opened the profession specialization tab on every char and every profession, and it was basically never clear what a specialization really leads to, what recipes it unlocks, etc. Sure, they use some fancy words to describe it…but what does that even mean?

I guess great for the ones who are really invested in professions, but for the average Joe who just wants to craft some nice stuff…pretty frustrating.

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The profession system is way over-convoluted, and the 15 people who like it will come here and act like it’s super simple because they spent the time to figure it out, and then they will use that to imply that people are stupid for not wanting to invest the time into the poorly designed unnecessarily complex system.

I figured it all out in DF and I just hated everything about it, placing orders, the whole rank system, the RNG elements, just the whole package. Let us go back to BOP exclusive crafts and BOE’s for the AH. Simplicity wins.

Edit : And I’ll just add this, a lot of old friends from my past have started playing TWW, and many of them have made comments about the crafting system and asking me to explain things, none of them positive experiences.

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its absolutely ridiculous that 80% of people every expansion have to miss out on profit/proffs because of either …

  1. Not being able to respec KnowledgePoints

  2. Not having millions before the expac hits to spend on said proffs to gain an edge

  3. Not using a literal spread sheet to calculate costs and profit ( i game to relax not do my taxes )

  4. Getting scalped/sniped by players that just sit at the AH 24/7 while also manipulating costs via buyouts and reposts

5 ) Bots

The whole proff system needs an overhaul

completely and utterly

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The whole system got an overhaul. That’s why we’ve had this mess since DF

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simply why not … there is no reason to not make more things in profesions … was to boring before

You can add more recipes without having to mess up the whole system and have ranks for objects.

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