Sigil of the Seven

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You have zero evidence for this. It is entirely headcanon.

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The fact that they held all the surviving lands in Lordaeron aren’t proof enough?

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No, especially when they were actively burning down non-aligned surviving villages solely for suspecting them of having the plague.

There’s zero reason to believe the majority of Lordaeronians joined the Scarlets, and it is in fact actively disputed by the fact that EVERYONE HATES THE SCARLETS.

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Going to need a source on that buddy or at least rephrase that. Because while majority might be true its also the remnants of the remnants who didn’t run off to Stormwind from both the Scourge AND the extremist / Draedlord-controlled Scarlets after a while, and that’s no majority compared to the Scarlet Crusade.

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Jeram, here’s a crucial fact. The Silver Hand splintered into two seperate factions after the death of Alexandros Mograine; specifically the Argent Dawn and the Scarlet Crusade. This goes against your presumption of your headcanon that the Scarlet Crusade was ever a majority among the surviving population.

Alexandros’ death rocked the paladins. Some suspected that a dark force had taken hold of Saidan Dathrohan and his closest followers, but they could not prove it. Their suspicions created divisions between the paladins. The holy warriors splintered into two seperate factions: the Argent Dawn and the Scarlet Crusade.

World of Warcraft Chronicle Vol. 3, Chp 3. The Frozen Throne, pg 103

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I am just trying to look at it logically.

“After Dalaran’s destruction by the Scourge, Jaina Proudmoore took as many survivors of Lordaeron she could find and sailed west to the forgotten shores of Kalimdor. After the Burning Legion was defeated at the Battle of Mount Hyjal, all surviving human” Quote from wowpedia. So yes there’s a possibility here that they didnt’ indeed join the crusade, but they were mana-nuked.

The Scarlets killed many of its Fomer citizens hnd had a very large base of operation back in the day. When I say “The majority” I mean the majority of the surviving Lordaeronians.

How could it not be so that they had the majority? Are you saying more fled than remained? I’ve not heard of the great Lordaeronian- Migration Period.

-The Silver Hand- were a handful of paladins. If the Argents and Scarelts were on equal terms in manpower the Argents, , would have held half of the living bastions. They didn’t, they held one Church, grouped up with the Horde and Alliance by the WPL and had one outpost. The Scarelts owned all other than Light’s Hope Chapel.

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World of Warcraft Chronicle Vol. 3, Chp 2. The Third War, pg 64
“In the days to come, Jaina worked tirelessly to rally as many refugees as she could. Not everyone she met agreed to go with her, but many did. When she finally set sail for Kalimdor, her force included members from nearly every Alliance race. Some were survivors from Lordaeron and Quel’Thalas, Some were dwarves and gnomes from Alliance military. And some were humans from Stromgarde, Kul Tiras, and other nations in the region.”

In addition, there’s also the fact that the humans in Hillsbrad Foothills were humans aswell, not part of the Scarlet Crusade or the Argent Dawn. In short, your point is rather flawed imo

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According to what Jager gathered it shows that Lordaeron was not a land of Scarlet Crusaders as many think. The most important thing is to gather evidence to support your claims and not creating your own stuff for your own good.

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copyright claim stop using our uniforms :angry:

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Hmm, I suppose it’s unsafe to say on the matter.

But! Atleast we can all agree on one thing: The Majority of the Lordaeronians are, infact, dead.

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I don’t think there is a source saying majority of Lordaeronians joined any faction more so over than any other anywhere. - and I wouldn’t hold my breath on a canon answer.

But you could claim most members of the crusade would of been Lordaeronians, and most holdouts seemed to have been in scarlet hands when talking about northern lordaeron. - until now anyway

insight from -

" The Scarlet Crusade maintains several bastions throughout the former lands of Lordaeron, namely the Scarlet Monastery, and up until the Shattering - Hearthglen, Tyr’s Hand, the fortified Scarlet Bastion of Stratholme, and several smaller camps and scout towers spread throughout the whole area of northern Lordaeron.

It was also, before the Cataclysm, the only hierarchy left of the kingdom of Lordaeron after its destruction by the Scourge."

.gamepedia.com/ – normally a good place to view lore anyway.

But I don’t see what any of this even matters.

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Thinking logically and creating lore out of your bumhole are 2 different things

Stop trying to bring up exactly the same concept that was viable like 7-9 years ago. Passion for something is admirable, but with such luck you can try standing with scarlet tabards in Stormwind on Moonguard, rather than here, on AD, again

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We’ve never done such a thing.

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But others did and what happened? Drama happened and only distaste left.

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https://wow-.gamepedia.com/Scarlet_Onslaught - RP out in Northrend. The glory days of the Crusade was in Vanilla.

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Wait, I am not understanding. Are you a former scarlet crusade organization and somehow keeping to the old way of the scarlet crusade in some shape or form?

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Basically a botched mess. The previous version before their hiatus was full blown Scarlets in uniforms, believes etc. But also “part”/allowed in the Alliance cus reasons.

And apparently this is case again.

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And they are recruiting in Stormwind City I assume? I don’t know since I am not exactly on Alliance.

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Haven’t seen the new version myself so can’t say. The old did alot.

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Oh, I just thought it was like a scarlet disguised as something else to recruit in Stormwind City then be off to the north.

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