Since you abuse the system

Im going to abuse it too.im gonna leech every single alterac im getting in to.theres no other way to get honor.you tryhards with your premades have destroyed pvp.youve turned random queue to a rated battleground.retail tryhards.

No matter what you say to defend yourselfs youve destroyed it.

You dont have the common sense to accept that youre transfering retail to classic yet you cry about #nochanges hypocritically.

Unless youre from some big server where premades can actually form or some boosted pve hero,its impossible to pvp

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They don’t care because they don’t queue AV anyway.

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Noone cares about it, it was always like this.

There were premades for AB and WSG 15 years ago.
I would know, I was in one.

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Make a premade yourself man , not defending premade or promoting it. But the game itself does promote it… and as a pug I find ab to be pug friendly and you can solo carry it like 70% of the games.

Nah fam, this sorta stuff has always happened.

Blizz has done a pretty decent job of delivering classic as it was so it was inevitable that premades and mafias and cliques would form.

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How can players push ranking without premade, its impossible unless you spend 24 hours online playing.

Premade at least allows you to get a full 6 hour sleep for the last 3 ranks.

Do you think some guy who’s likely not even Rank 8 realizes that tho?

Nowhere near the same scale, there was 1-2 premades on a realm back then. Crossrealm didn’t exist until later, premades were not in 9/10 games in Vanilla even at the height of the honor system, when crossrealm finally got added at the end of vanilla it still wasn’t a massive issue because we had battlegroups that are nowhere near as big as the pool of players we now have.

So no you don’t know what you’re talking about.

It’s so stupid how people defend this nonsense with #nochanges and “it was the same in vanilla” NO IT WAS NOT, this is an issue caused by cross realm and inflated population. It should be fixed.

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Don’t worry! I’m sure the tryhards will get bored someday and move on.

Also, I tend to be too lazy to form a premade myself, but joining one when people are looking is easy enough. At least where I’m playing.

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Premades are not “abusing” the system; they are part of the system. Part of the game design.

It simply feels unfair because there are far more premades now than there were back in vanilla.

They are not doing anything wrong. The way the Ranking system works is to encourage people to get as much Honor as possible - so people who rank seriously, will do premades,because it gives them more honor.

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Guess I wasn’t part of one back then anyway then.
Thanks for correcting my memories.
:rofl:

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Because you’re comparing the state of PVP in vanilla to now. It’s not the same it wasn’t as widespread as it is now it’s disingenuous to act like it was.

That depended on the server, so yes he might as well know what hes talking about. We had the same thing on Bloodhoof server. Tons of premades in AV, AB and WSG.

Punish premaders by afking in av where premaders don’t go?

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I can’t understand how people can get so triggered because people play group pvp content in a group.

It’s sounds like wonderful idea if you play AV instead that is pug vs pug.

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Thats why you roll pvp server.
You never do pvp for fun in BGs.
Either u are in mad ranking pre-made or against one. Cant tell which is worse seriously…
Or you are in clown fiesta AV with 10 full afk bots and 20 semi afk lvl 52-58 rep farmer.
So NO, BGs are sadly not for fun PvPing.
Go in open world and find some fights.
This is best advice you can get.

So let me get this straight. You’re going to break the game rules as a form of revenge against people that AREN’T breaking any rules?

Alright then, enjoy the ban that you’ll get in 3-4 months time.

Yeah, this.
The days of AV premades are over.
People are in WSG/AB now.
The people you are mad at, literally won’t see anything you’re doing.
They won’t care.
You might as well be screaming at your TV expecting a result, OP.

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Dude not worth farming ranks unless you are a warrior for that set bonus.

Once naxxx is out and is on farm, it will make r14 gear look like pre-bis dungeon gear for majority of pure dps class and if you are hybrid class like druid, shaman or paladin then AQ40 is almost better than r14 and can be obtained easily too, in less than 3 weeks if your guild has AQ40 on farm.