Sire Denathrius

It’s implied that it’s actually the other way around. They started as servants of death but became infused with Fel in order to infiltrate the Legion.

Maybe, but if they were beings of Death from the start, why did they have a homeworld in the Twisting Nether? Nathreza.

My guess - they either found a hunk of lifeless rock and claimed it as their own, or wiped out whatever was already living on it. As in, it’s not their homeworld, that’s just the lies they told to make themselves seen trustworthy to the Legion. If the info we get from Enemy Infiltration is correct, they are exceptionally good at telling lies - Lothraxion is still currently trusted by the Light (hint: he probably should not be trusted). Also the book says they consumed Fel - making it more likely that they did not start out as demons.

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Possible, but seems a bit like a stretch to me. Since a lot of things need to turn out to be true for it to be the case.

Though I guess we’ll see.

Or won’t if Blizz doesn’t bother finishing this part of the lore.

Sire Denathrius is kinda hot tbh :eyes: :sweat_drops:

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That’s the thing, it feels forced and wrangled into place. There’s a lot of already established lore on the Dreadlords. First and foremost how on earth did they manage to entre the Shadowlands to begin with? And once there how on earth did anyone get anything out of the Maw (helm and sword), given that “no one escapes the maw”?

I think it’s the other way around. They were always part of the Ravendreth and infiltrated the legion.

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As stated - because it’s possible they were from the Shadowlands to begin with, a race of perfect spies created by Denathrius. Of course, this creates problems of how they got out… But I imagine answers will be given as time goes on, as they will for the Helm. I hope.

Off topic but that hat looks AMAZING

The legendary one or the one on my avatar? For some reason it’s not updated.

The avatar one that’s all drusty

It’s called Soulthorn Visage.

He has a pinky claw ring!

As long as they don’t retcon the lore on that as well, it’s already established that they were born of the chaotic energy and is one of the original demons.

See above answer. It would make absolutely no sense that they were “of shadowlands”. Also given that their soul is “immortal” and that they go into the Twisting Nether once they die. Also the plane of death and life is separated, shadowlands exist on the edge of reality. So it makes even less sense that they travelled between planes.

Thing is - that could be one of the lies they spun. They are meant to be spies, it is going to be a lot easier to spy on demons if everyone thinks you are a demon. It might not be a retcon-retcon, but a “ha you thought”.

Yes, true. But as the book has hinted, Azeroth is not the plane of life. More likely, the Emerald Dream is.

The ones who became demons, yes. Do you think Lothraxion would go to the Twisting Nether if he died? This one doesn’t really lend evidence to the idea that they were originally demons - just that those who consumed fel to become demons were successful in that.

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reminds me of king thranduil lmao

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You know, I’m never going to unsee that now.

What about NATHanos ?

Seriously though, I think the guy is awesome.

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Well, the other three all have nathr, not just nath. So, I somehow doubt he’s connected.
But hey, could be cool, you never know

Now that’s pitifully weak in my mind, because that opens an avenue of “haha fooled you” scenarios that makes even less sense. There are other things in lore that are not fully explained, that they can then just “twist” around and pull a “it was all a ruse”. I think that is extremely weak writing when you have to resolve to such low standards in your stories.

Wouldn’t make any sense, as the Emerald dream is the “death” plane for some, like the wild gods. You can’t be both a death plane and a life plane as far as I’m concerned, as they are opposing forces and don’t mix.

Well, Lothraxion was killed once, and went to the Nether to regenerate. He was later on infused with light. Given that they are creatures of fel originally, it’s strange that the light can be infused in something as chaotic. But Blizzard lore is Blizzard lore.

And they didn’t “become demons”, they’ve always been demons. The nathrezim were born by the chaotic energies of the fel, and as such are of the “original” demons as per lore. It’s not like the Eredar that became infused by fel, they’ve always been of fel.