Skinning GRIEFING

Oh, hey! Yet another thread about this…

I also want protection on Black Lotus and Rich Thorium when I first call dibs in chat. No, it’s not different.

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If working around and working with other people isn’t something that interests you, perhaps online games aren’t your thing.

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How does other players stealing your leather count as working with other people?

Oh wait, it doesn’t.

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How about killing Devilsaurs and leave their unlooted corpses scattered about?

If i can’t have the joy of skinning them i can at least have the joy of seeing the thieves skulk around until the corpses fade away. :smiling_imp:

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Lmfao the retail babies suggesting idiotic retail mechanics because they can’t stand having to use their brains whilst playing the game…

Oh no…

Lol @ crying about people stealing your skinning, it’s like its your first time playing the game LOL

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Well, it looks like you struggle as much to read as you do to skin devilsaurs:

Something isn’t yours until it’s in your bag. Everything is contested, the tag, the kill and the skin. Either outskin people or outthink them.

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That poster has always been like that, a shame they removed the ignore user feature on this new forum. Just ignore her.

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You struggle to read your own posts :joy:

We were talking about something that is clearly about working around the inconveniences other people place, and yet for some reason you decided to assume that I am also unable to work with other people just because Vanilla to me wasn’t about coming up with tactics to deal with players stealing leather.

Is that so? Then why can’t I loot the corpses of other players’ kills until they have looted it first?

I know. But as I mentioned before auto-clickers have grown in significant popularity since Vanilla so something needs to be done to prevent them from getting an edge against players who are actually playing authentically.

As if much out-thinking can be done against leather thieves. The most you can do is leave and hope they leave too. It’s not exactly clever. Don’t try to paint taking leather as some sort of battle of wits. It’s really not.

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I would maybe change the name of the thread m8,the problem is not just the Devilsours but the fact that they are using auto/bot addons?witch i do see as a problem.

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If having to have the lowest ping (being the closest to the servers) and the best auto-click macro on your programmable keyboard is “using your brain”, then I’m not worried about you ever having a headache because you think too much…

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Pointless thread. Your skin got ninja’d, big woop. Making up big scary woohoo story tales of ‘autoclickers’ isn’t going to get you back the leather you lost. I could pretend the guy who stole my mining node yesterday while I was engaged in combat was a ‘hacker’ because he got the node before I did, but that’s just an assumption I would be making by being a sore loser. This is the mechanic for all professions, they can all be lost to other players. No one is going to make an exception for you because you made up some nonsense about autoclicking which is already a bannable offence which no one in their right mind would do anyway.

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No, I don’t. I even underlined the words that you chose to ignore.

Yes, we are. But I included the “working with” other people because Classic isn’t just a game where everybody is your enemy. Working WITH people would actually be the solution to your problem.

Think the Devilsaur Mafia on my server are jusr Horde? No, they work with an Alliance guild too.

As of now, I generally assume that you can’t do a great deal since you can’t even understand when the word “AND” seperates a sentence.

Because that’s how mob tagging works. Skinning isn’t mob tagging.

And as I said, auto clickers are against the rules and people who use them get banned. I’ve also not actually witnessed any of that use myself, the only thing I’ve seen Devilsaur ninjas say is “It’s nice having 4 ms”.

As for fast action scripts and macros: A significant amount of players were banned for macro-buying recipe’s from the vendor in everlook so that’s against the rules also.

If you want to not worry about losing your mats to other players, go and play retail. All environmental profession sources and specific to your character and can’t be stolen. And this wasn’t implemented until like, after WoD or something.

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That is not griefing.

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Whats up with all these “go back to retail” i mean its not just something people used it on retail,Esfand him self said he was banned for using click/boting tools on pservers and the reason “well just cause everyone was using it”.

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While you have a point, you at least must see the difference between getting to an unused node first, and skinning a mob someone else worked to kill.

Actually no. You can get to mining and herbalism nodes before someone. You can skin a mob someone else worked to kill. You literally cannot steal someone else’s cloth unless they loot the corpse first without taking it. Getting enchanting mats is an entirely different kettle of fish on top of that. Gathering mats is not the same across the board.

Nice roundabout way of going back on what you said.

Sure okay. If it makes you happy to think that way, keep going.

The thing with auto clicking is, and I have seen it for myself in other games, is that if it becomes known that it is one of the best (with minimal effort) ways to get something valuable, as time passes their use will grow. Blizzard need to do something about it now. Whether that means adding a grace period for skinning mobs, or finding a way to disable auto clicking software more directly. From what I understand the latter is not easy to do because new ones are being developed all the time, which is also why botting is still around despite Blizzard’s efforts to stop it.

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Its simply impossible for blizzard to detect autoclicking. Better game design to break the usefulness of autoclicking is a way more elegent solution

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I’m personally in favor of a 2s grace period after the loot window has been closed so that the killer can skin his corpse without it being stolen by lazy people just leeching his work.

And to those “NO CHANGES” broken records…

Classic isn’t Vanilla.
For instance:

  • In Vanilla, you could make addons that literally played the game for you. Autotravel, dispelling, auto casting the right heal by just spamming one key, etc… All those are NOT possible in Classic.
    Adding a grace period for skinning isn’t different. It’s correcting a flaw that existed in Vanilla but was harder to exploit back then due to technology evolution.

A 2s grace period would make all the autoclicking systems obsolete without any need of player reports and wasted GM time. It would also remove the disadvantage people who live further away from the servers have (longer ping time) which makes them always the loser no matter what they try. I see only advantages in such a change, except for the cheaters, so there’s no valid reason for not implementing it.

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From now on untill they add a grace im going to report every person that steals a skin for autoclicking

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Good suggestion for retail! But no changes in Classic, please.

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