They skipped most of the trash too that time 
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One day skippers will realise that skipping fills their bars slower (and the bars are huge exp gain) and so by skipping they are actually levelling up slower…not to mention when they hit 60 they still need to complete the bars anyway.
But that won’t stop them being toxic and quitting a group because it’s not skipping, inconveniencing 4 players who have also queued for that dungeon and wasting other people’s time.
I loved the bit about ‘rather take the 15 minute penalty than waste 3 minutes of my time’…not only is that dumb, but also selfish.
Want to skip? Form a skip party in lfg. Otherwise assume when you are in lfg that people actually want to complete the dungeon and do all bosses for the bar completion and aren’t expecting some entitled toxic player to quit if they don’t get their way.
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I have no idea what RNG is involved but we only killed the little we needed to to get through.
What bar it fills? I go to dungeon only for exp not to fill any bars.
XP bar 
You get more xp per time spend when you skip boss then if you do all of them!
You get progress on the “aid X covenant” bar for every boss killed, if you full run PF you get 10% of the maldraxxus bar, if you skip you get only 5%, and seeing as the skip doesn’t make the dungeon twice as fast (it makes it 5 minutes quicker at best) the bar fills much slower.
And completing this bar and turning in the quest gives you 25-30% of a level’s worth of exp. So you need to factor this in when claiming PF skips are quicker exp/hour because the fact remains that someone who does full clears will be turning this quest in at the point the skipper is maybe only one dungeon run ahead of them in terms of additive time saved, and the quest itself is worth the same as running a dungeon more or less.
So so long as you still need to do this quest, skipping PF largely nets no exp benefits due to the much faster bar progression on those who full run it. If the bar is already filled, then yes, perhaps it will net more exp slightly over an extended time window.
I mean when levelling up i’ve had PF dungeon full clears take about 20ish minutes or so if that. A skip run would need to take less than 9 minutes total for it to counter the extra bar progress and I don’t believe PF skip runs can be completed in 9 minutes given the RP dialogue of the last two bosses in itself (and the required trash to get them to start it) is probably 3 minutes on their own. 6 minutes to ride from start to finish, waiting on patrol to move, killing the adds before 2, then killing the spider packs before 3? I don’t see it.
Fact is a full clear (if you do it smart) doesn’t involve any extra killing at the start, just the slime boss, and the mob packs on the boss 2 platforms. It does not extend the dungeon duration by that much. In many of my full clear groups we ended up taking boss 2 WITH the packs so it added maybe 3 minutes total to our run.
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You know that bar only apper if you have done stupid thing and start doing Thread of Fate? It is like chosing to be disabled.
Never use Threads of Fate because you lost time and exp. Really you can level up 50-60 in few hours but insted you want to grind it for days?
It doesn’t take days to do threads of fate.
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I agree, I’ve levelled with both systems and there isn’t much in it.
Don’t you only get necrotic wake when you dungeonspam leveling without threads of fate? You never reach maldraxus since you do not finish the bastion storyline, so you would never get plaguefall 
I have never tried this actually.
Yes you need to open zone by zone if you chose storyline.
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If you don’t choose threads, you really shouldn’t dungeon spam, unless you really really like Necrotic Wake 
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I remember when I was spamming Blackrock for week on every character and Freehold or over 600 runs in Stonecore.
The takeaway from this is just that Blizzard should design dungeons in a way you can’t skip bosses, or make the dungeon finish exp only be rewarded if you kill all bosses.
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Nobody is spamming dungeons to level outside of ToF so your point is moot.
Dungeon spam to level during campaign is pointless because you have to quest through Bastion first to even unlock PF. Those 5 minutes saved in hypothetical PF runs when you get there mean jack when the ToF has already gained several levels spamming dungeons and has their big turn in bars progressed.
Not to mention you then need to faff about and quit campaign and activate ToF at 59 else you then need to waste time questing at 60.
ToF dungeon spam with bar turn ins when poss is the fastest method to level without exception, and certainly the fastest way to start 60 given you don’t need to waste time questing in zones when you hit 60.
Why on earth would anyone think dungeon spam in campaign is better? It’s literally exactly the same exp as ToF runs except ToF gets the bar quest done, has any covenant ability, and can access quickest dungeons (PF and Mists) without questing first. If you’re levelling using campaign method, the way to do it is quests, not dungeon spam. If you wanna spam dung, you should do ToF always, there’s no downside to doing so.
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Makes you wonder why they didn’t think of this after it was an issue with Freehold in BfA.
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You don’t understand anything.
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This is very possibly the reason, since there is a secret mount only needs last bosses.
I guess Blizzard just have a hard time learning from their mistakes.
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