I don’t understand why bosses would even be skippable. They should make it so no bosses can be skipped.
Like a boss is just going to stand there like “oh this group of people is running past me…oh well”
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So wait, you would rather skip the 5208 exp and take a 15 minute lockout than add maybe 5 minutes to your run and get the extra exp?
Are you sure your philosophy is still the fastest way to 60? For every group you bail due to no skip, you now waste 15 minutes of time, by which point the full-clear group are now onto their second dungeon, and you haven’t even ran one.
So if what you say is true, your method is only faster (possibly) if you get not one single group that tries to full clear. If you do, by your own admission, you then leave, take deserter, and are now 5208 exp and 15 minutes behind, which you will not make up unless you now sink more actual playtime into the game than the “full-clear” individual.
I’m not sure you ARE interested in getting to 60 as fast as possible, because if you were, you wouldn’t do something as stupid as taking deserter buff for this reason and somehow convince yourself that taking the 15 minutes and less exp is “the fastest method to 60”.
The fastest method would be to roll with whatever your group does, or make a premade for levelling in dungeons that has the skip agreed upon. Taking 15 minute lockouts over it is pretty much the “self-sabotage” you’re describing because the group doesn’t want to run the dungeon “the way you want to”.
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So you trade 15min deserter debuff because you do not want to do 3min more of the dungeon?
If so then you are Really failing at leveling fast. So you are taking LONGER to get to 60 because you want to be done with the dungeon faster for the exp. what?
Your mindset is very odd you want to min max leveling so you want skips yet you take the longest possible way of leveling via dungeons.
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Why game begins at 60?
I say go with the flow. If the majority want to skip, then skip. If they want to kill, then kill.
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If they remove the skip in Plaguefall , the leveling between 50-60 is going to be more terrible …
because the gear has no value , we level up too fast . And specs are better to play when you have more stats , when you have no stats , it’s like classic , it’s just boring
Specs are best when you unlock all skills because Blizzard cannot balance them. And plaguefall is small skip that give you 20 min more time for playing. Without skip plaguefall you do in 30 min and you earn 12k more exp but with skip you earn 30 k in 10 min. So you waste some one time by doing first two boss.
For some reason, ppl think that minorities have more rights than majorities nowadays. If there are 4 ppl, who want fast xp and 1 guy, who likes to waste his time, he/she is mad and calls everybody toxic and ignorant. Might have something to do with the modern trend to discriminate majorities in western world, wink wink.
blizzard deliberately didnt create barrier there so people who want to farm up secret mount could skip most of dungeon while they solo it.
Some one is gearing on normal dungeon? Then some one shoud tell him that is worst option to get gear.
If you dungeon spam your way to 60 you hit it before any of the bars are filled anyway. Threads of fate % doesn’t matter at all.
And yet everybody call it “ENDGAME” 
What do you mean? I filled 2 bars on my last alt 
The real thing is, is that you dont get faster XP. You get less XP, and you have to dungeon spam A LOT if you want to win time for 1 more dungeon. You do the same amount of dungeons in your play session time, so you are getting less XP, and level slower. These skips cost me time.
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You cant expect people to skip cos you want to, if you dont want skips you shouldnt pug it tho
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Indeed, I don’t understand this either.
If you full clear a dungeon, you get 10% of a bar.
10 dungeons per bar fill = 40 dungeons minimum to fill all 4 (chances of this are low due to duplicates)
But it takes about 3 dungeons to get a level at the start, veering towards 4 at the end, so it’s very likely you’ll fill at least 1 likely 2 bars when doing so, and it’s hardly irrelevant as the “fill a bar” quest itself grants exp which is worth about 25% of a level as well as 1 renown, so not turning it in when you could is pretty bizarre.
This isn’t factored in the PF skips as well. Every skip is 5% less on the bar. You need 10 pf full clears to max the bar, and 20 pf skip runs to fill it.
If the quest plus additional boss exp is worth more than the collective exp you gain by “saving” those 5 minutes each skip run, then skipping isn’t actually faster as the full runners will be able to turn in the quest twice as quickly, getting a massive boost to their exp.
Even if it’s not “better” it certainly enough to mitigate a significant portion of the “extra exp” skipping grants you.
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On my 2 alts I’ve leveled just by spamming dungeons I wasn’t even close to filling any of the bars when I hit 60.
yes when i spam dungeons only , my bars are like 80%-95% when i hit 60 . Maybe i will fill 1 bar if im lucky
i hate this design . We should fill a bar with 5 dungeons
20min for first two bosses ? 
Are you lost mind ?
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Since when does it take 20 minutes to do them?
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I’ve managed to get all my samples on skip runs. It drops from trash.
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