So gear does 40% of my dmg

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Ok, idea was cool, but implementation is incredibly awful.

So, where to start?
Training your dps on training dummy is now pointless. My experience from testing that mind flay corruption:
Test #1 - 45k dps
#2 - 40k
#3 - 35k
#4 - 50k!
All the time I had only that one mind flay corrupted effect and I didn’t change my talents/gear. Corruption did 5-30% of my damage. This is just outrageous, silly, stupid, dumb and idiotic.

Now, as raid leader, I check after raid who’s good and who’s not. Oh, this warrior is good, I check further, hey, corruption is his #1 damage… Did he have luck? Ok, later, this shadow priest sucked in previous, after getting Infinite Stars he was #2 on Maut with 60k dps. What the hell?
I had to check this, since we have more than 30 ppl in group and before picking 20 players for mythic I have to check who should go. Should I just pick top dps? That won’t be fair for unlucky people.

Negative effects RNG is also incredibly bad. It’s either no proc at all for few minutes, then one proc which you cleanse and then BOOM 2 eyes + slow + clone and you’re dead…

Or example from arena.
I play hpally+feral vs dpriest+assa.
Assa did so much damage I couldn’t heal through it during wings. I checked his damage - 20% mind flay…
Ok, next arena, I wore gloves with tentacle corruption.
We faced arms+hpally. I popped consecration, faked interupt and spammed Holy Light (Avenging Light), corruption procced, warrior bites the dust. I checked my damage: 200k consecration, 750k mind flay…

Overall, I find WoW now to be one big cluster of annoyances. Last two patches are the most tiresome and annoying patches in history of WoW. If Ion is “happy” how corrupted gear worked out - fine for him. I am not gonna pay for second job and casino royale just to have fun in hamster wheel.

Peace.

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what can he say anyways?
There are no devs to revamp the system and there is no upcoming patch.
if he say weelll corruption turns out to be mega garbage, we still would be stuck with it.
overall he is also happy with bfa which is clearly lacking and many dislike bfa as expac.

phrase it like this:
if you can afk autoattack and still do 80% of the damage that someone is doing at full capacity, something is very wrong.
We are not there yet, but might be at half way mark already.

if you like it, well soon we have no buttons to press left because it doesnt matter.

worst is the huge rng to get gear with right stats, right corruption, right corruption level, right slot, with socket on top of a only 20% drop chance from chest/boss
guess its easier to win the lottery

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Corruption

  • Overall they’ve happy with how corruption is playing out. There were some tuning issues.

  • They are focused on the ratio of power to the points of corruption on the item.

  • Corruption is almost like a game of Tetris, and some of the lower tiers allow you to be more flexible with your corruption budget.

  • Corruption is an 8.3 system, but they’re happy with how the experiment has played out and it’s letting them explore a world without Warforging and Titanforging

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Gearing isn’t “all or nothing”, when you get an item that increases your damage by 10% it’s still an upgrade, regardless of how many of your boxes it checks

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This might sounds crazy but bear with me here guys…

What if…just if…they try out a system from before Legion?

The world was without warforging and titanforging for years, and it was good. Can’t wait to see yet another RNG-based gearing system with downsides…

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yea it is if others have won the lottery and just shred you apart with their lottery win because you only got 1 number right instead of 6

games should be about skill and not pure luck.
Of course luck was always a thing but before it was just item dropped or it didn’t drop. Now if it drops it needs 6 others things to luck out to be good.
I don’t want to gamble, I would like to play the game.

And yes it does matter if others tear you apart with tier 3 infinite stars with a socked 475 weapon from kings rest.
If I got a 475 weapon (not KR) without all the above, the damage difference would be just a joke.
Yet you only have 1/1000000000 chance once a week to get this weapon

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Yup, 475 Geti’ikku with socket and infinite stars is brutal in PvP. Hoping to get it myself.

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No, it doesn’t 6 other things and just cause you have multiple rolls of RNG doesn’t make it bad. If you could bonus roll a boss 6 times you have a higher chance to get an upgrade than the standard binary chance.

First of all the current power of IF is irrelevant to this conversation.
And secondly would you prefer not getting the weapon at all?

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I feel much like you do. Lets have a system where the only RNG is:-

  • will the boss drop loot YES/NO
  • is that loot something I need YES/NO

However Blizzard don’t seem to be able to do anything with WoW without turning it into some hideous gimmick.

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As much as I want to make constructive post - my mental image was a scream and flapping hands in the air.

And that mental image describes it better than any of my words on their own could.

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Whilst some players may enjoy the new system there are definitely others who don’t.

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As I posted earlier - I literally left raid (nicely, and kindly 1st making sure they can replace me) due to 100 to 0 morale drop after my co tank and I got exact same loot. He got best corruption imaginable top of the already good corrupted gear and I got same item that wasn’t even upgrade over my last raid tier socketed item.

I Just did stare the screen, and asked raid lead just to replace me, told I feel not good (which was also true before raid, but that RNG was the true sledgehammer) and by next boss I just couldn’t focus on screen.

I mean … we did get same item… just I got 50g from vendor. He got item he could use top of his already sky high corruptions.

Technically i have already given up and am looking those small goals that would make me have fun in game again. I kind of liked visions, but I do not like assaults, and I cannot do visions unless I do assaults. So there.

Raids have always been my safe heaven. Even when I have not had fun with certain aspects of expansion. Raids were always something that worked for me. Now I do not know… I cannot have fun, if my class is defined by RNG. I do half less damage vs. my co-tank. No, that does not feel particularly fun !

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I feel you. This RNG fiesta is so big let-down and so exhausting thing I just can’t play it anymore. I’m gonna finish my small goals and then leave for longer time.

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be me
get grey/green parses
loot infinite stars r3
get purple parses
wtf blizz?

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I’ve found gearing so depressing this patch. I can’t even be bothered to do anything competitive any more. Friends are making it fun.

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This thread taught me 1 thing - that Ellipsìs is a guy i want to have a beer with in a pub and talk about wow

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I got a green parse on maut mythic today. My infinite stars did 5% of my damage. Top dude on our kill, purple parse. 19,6% of his damage was infinite stars. :disappointed:

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Titanforging never bothered me.

It’s akin to someone saying your forehead is itchy or your brain auto ignores seeing your nose.

After someone points it out, you can’t stop thinking about it and it bothers you.

Most people just hated forging because some streamer would point it out and make jokes about the dumb system to the point it meme’d.

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And thing is - I have always been “gear reckless” person meaning that ilevels etc mean nothing to me because regardless of loot luck, but properly geraing you are still on the level. few inches lower dps from your co-tank, blah, who cares - you still are as sturdy and gear comes over time…

But this, where you have some ilevel difference and your performance is half, and then boss also gives you same item where one is upgrade, and other is complete trash. It just … is bit too much. Heck, i would have been glad with a good defensive corruption (then I could just focus on being that “orgozoa typed legend”), but no, my corruptions on my raider is is ‘gain more haste’ or similar that give me nothing. Heck one of those ‘give more stat’ items managed to be solid downgrade as I had more of that stat with other non corrupted item.

Yeah sure my dk (my main, who does not raid :P) occasionally laughs about her R3 stars. Only that since she doesn’t raid that stars doesnt help her much anywhere. Its next to useless in visions.

Our warlock killed himself with infinite stars on mythic Maut. :smiley: safe to say he did not even get green logs for that.

And talking about Maut - this is a boss that my raider character likes since least he drops for me one item that is 100% corrupted and not RNG corrupted.

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Gear does 80% of your damage in 8.3 if you have best corruptions, trinkets etc.