The horde did start this though. They were at a ceasefire after the Legion’s defeat.
So what history would that be? Let me guess… Orcs imprisonment? After the orcs rampaged throughout their territories and even sacked Stormwind, imprisoning the orcs was a mercy act. The only other solution would’ve been mass execution.
Or Camp Taurajo? Where the Alliance deliberately left openings in their ranks for civilians to evacuate?
- Blights Gilneas
- Casually Blights anything she wants to Blight
- Abandons Alliance on the Broken Shore
- Kept a pet Dreadlord which lead to Wrathgate
- Burned thousands of innocents along with Teldrassil
- Part of the faction that bombed Theramore
- Tortures people when she doesn’t get her way
- Attacks neutral Kul Tiran settlement, killing potentially hundreds
- Wants her own family to be undead like her
- Part of the species that abused the Well of Eternity
- Bombed her own people in the Battle for Lordaeron
- Part of the faction that has shredded Ashenvale for years
- Blighting/Ruining Hillsbrad
- Plague bombing Southshore
- Getting bored now
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“YeAh BuT CaMp TaUrAjo!”
horde ptsd intensifies
Pretty sure the Alliance commander who took responsibility for that had everyone involved hunted down and executed for their ‘war crimes’.
Alliance already achieved their goals in the starting cutscene, everything what happens after is just Horde devs using Alliance to advance yet another Horde storyline. Whole raid is just a story “how and why Zandalari trolls are joining the Horde”, made for the Horde players.
Some of these posts of Alliance only exist for the Horde storyline are borderline conspiracy theory nutcase level.
If we will friends again I will
I don’t want to have peace with a faction which need to be controlled like the scourge.
so what can we take from this thread?
that both results of each example can be seen to fit either black/white narrative
i personally enjoyed leymaiden’s take on Sylvanas staying behind at Battle for Lordaeron,
may or may not be true but that could very accurately be construed as such which was enough to win me over there
both sides are wearing a mask, and we judge them by that mask not actually by their actions,
their actions serving only to further the perception of the mask they wear
Well. Alliance also did burn down a tauren village and killed everyone including the civilians for the sake of battle strategy.
If this act of sylvanas is considered to be dishonorable, and pushing it too far, Why wasn’t that too far for alliance back then?
Like i said. Both factions are hypocrites. They talk the talk but in the end, they’re both no saint and have skeletons in their closet.
Still burning … hmm BBQ
Wrong. Basically all books tell us that the Horde where the ones who started the war. You can continue to screech about Stormheim or Greymane, but the fact remains that it doesn’t play a role in the current plot.
The problem is that the Horde has become so utterly despicable that keeping them around after BfA would be madness. Characters like Baine and Saurfang do not exist for the Horde, but for the Alliance players so that they get some reasons why the Horde should not be utterly exterminated. (Or getting a " Treaty of Versailles" treatment.)
It’s kind of what you’re expected to do when you join an army, you know.
You follow orders.
It’s the usual ‘It’s okay when the alliance does it’ crap we get on these forums.
At the Battle for the Undercity, Horde forces that were too slow to retreat got blighted, if you do it Horde side you get remarks from said soldiers cursing themselves for being too slow.
They knew the blight was coming, the plan was to retreat before it hit, they didn’t retreat in time.
Yet Alliance players will claim this is some sort of unforgivable act.
Meanwhile the Alliance sacrifice troops in the exact same way, but without the chance of said troops escaping at all (these guys weren’t too slow to escape, they were acceptable losses) and its all noble and just.
If it was Sylvanas rather than Jaina making the order, it’d be seen as unforgivable and vile no doubt.
Is fighting transdimensionally empowered super soldiers, whom betrayed her people and left them to die at the hands of the Scourge.
Is following the orders of her leader whom had been fatally wounded.
Kul Tiras and the Horde have been at war since Warcraft 3.
The Alliance and Horde have had cease fires, but Kul Tiras until recently was not part of the alliance, and was not at the time the Horde attacked.
R u for real. She launched an insidious attack on a severely weakened people and then decided to vindictively blight them. They never attacked the Forsaken.
Cowardly Horde dogs.
The Alliance was at war with Kul Tiras. Kul Tiras withdrew from the Alliance.
Therefore Kul Tiras was not at war with the Horde.
Even if that was the case, seems absolutely awful, villainous and nonsensical for them to suddenly randomly attack a non-military settlement years later.
Also doesn’t excuse the tremendous amount of other atrocities. The Horde isn’t a good or even a neutral faction in the slightest. They’re clear cut evil.
We didn’t nuke those troops and doom them to wandering the land as defiled skeletons.
This is literally the only example people ever pull up and it was clearly stated that the men who sacked Taurajo were dissidents that were all hunted down and executed for their war crimes by Alliance Command.
But it’s okay, that justifies dropping a mana bomb on a whole city full of innocent people. kay.
You do know that the Worgen curse comes from another dimension and turns even old women into people stronger and faster than Captain America right?
They didn’t make peace with the Horde after withdrawing from the Alliance, in fact they continued to press the attack, chasing them across the sea and so on.