So technically, people cant upgrade their current items which they farmed for months. Also you can only upgrade your m+ items. Alts def gonna like this.
Prob buthurted much, that you wont plan to allow upgrade m0 items aswell (would cost much more valor /time).
Now people forced to spend hours to m+ agains, and pray the rng generator to get an usefull item which worth to upgrade.
Acti-blizz developers:
To be consistent with the stated philosophy, âLoot is lootâ, this decision is a disgrace. Turned out our loot was in fact not loot, but actually inferior with a database-incurred sickness lingering. A big slap in the face.
Mop was also a different time, no m+ meant item were fixed, and not something that has to scale indefinitely between keys and bumped each patch, because dungeon loot donât change through the xpac, the item will be the same just higher ilvl. I guess when they design this kind of loot they didnât account on the need of working on it aside add a socket.
A big oversight? Probably, but iâd like proof before saying âthis is crapâ when they talk about technical limitations.
they dont care about neither loot nor raids
they found a clear way for introduction of p2w into game
all those token sales for 8x+15 each season on all alts .
juicy $$$$ for blizz.
How is it pay to win when you can do this without a boost?
Also there is no confirmation yet that i have seen that you need this on all alts.
Nice way to dramatise thoâŚ
I dont see this as a surprise. Thats how every expansion of WOW worked in the past. New season, new items or new systems.
why are people getting mad at something that has been around since a long time?
Even in the past, when Blizzard had PVE vendors every patch - New items were introduced where you had to refarm the badges of justice or valor points etc⌠whats new?
Expansion in past = TBC, WOTLK so no we never had this in past expansions. Back in TBC there were 2 badge vendors and items they sold worked as catch up. It would get you about 2 tiers behind current tier and it was only few items while badges took you weeks to farm just to get 1 item. Its not even close to what we will have.
I will prefer to search 1 year worth of drops instead of doing 3 months of m+ for the same items. You have destroyed m+ from start with low drops/ilvl and you are destroying it again with this valor sh*t system. I`m already playing this game for 1 key/week on all my chars and logout.
âThe Return of Valor Pointsâ ⌠but you can`t upgrade anything. You should rename that to: âNext patch it will be even more harder to get lootâ
Same like âVAULTâ system where the majority of the people get duplicates.
Replaying old games and 1 key/week is better than playing this disaster. Iâm tired of farming m+ and getting a duplicate or same slot item. My experience with this expansion since start is bad. Maybe there are people that are happy with your game but iâm not one of them. The PvP part is fun but PvE is the worst i`ve seen and iâve played BFA.
This excuse gets brought up all the time. Pay to win does NOT necessitate than an item or a service is otherwise unavailable ingame, it can just as easily refer to a paid skip of difficult/hard to earn stuff, which is exactly whatâs happening. With the legendaries also and their stupid prices on certains realms.
This change comes before the next season. This is a middle of the season change.
Whatâs different is that itâs not a new season, they are invalidating the M+ gear we have by making us grind it again so we can upgrade it mid-season.
Also this only started with M+ in Legion, before we were never farming and refarming the SAME items from the same dungeons for 2 years straight.
Maybe make 18+ 226 and 20+ is a 233 token?
the person who made this whole decision should be fire asap. what a clown show
However much you skip around it, it isnt pay to win. If you want to do it, you can. Dont need to spend any In game or Real life money to do it.
Same with Legendaries, if you want it you can earn it from in game activities.
People can be boosted through all Mythic Raid bosses, +15 keys and to 2400 in PVP, this will never have an effect on the way i play the game so its not like its a big deal.
What worries me is what happen when the new season start.
Sure there will be a valor reset, but the gear?
If we can keep upgrading endlessly the same item, prepare for this half season of people spamming nonstop +2 to get the bis until the end of time.
If we canât, lord help us, endless regrind and reupgrade until the next xpac.
Clearly we need some more info, and this thing has to be though through by blizz some more.
I mean this is unavoidable now unless they remove valor after a new season start, which would be even more mental. Itâs possible theyâll make it unreasonably expensive to upgrade from lower keys to incentivize spamming higher ones even after KSM.
Actually if blizz smart enough to do focus on specs / talents / classes none of the players would be complained too much like this. But they are not capable of a âcompanyâ which can not satisfy their customers is leading , these complaints.
Just donât understand. You have datas , you have playerâs feedback , you have a website to read/listen these. It seems you donât have employee after all.
Just give buffs / fix those underperforming classes and they will be fine on farming RNG Ridicilous gears. Putting effort on underperforming class and getting no loot equals the situation right now. Again Fire Ion and get a new guy for the sake of game.
All gear is obviously going to be seasonal. Thatâs how theyâve done it since forever. S1 items wonât be upgradeable in S2.
Besides, why would anybody that can get +15s done ever touch a +2? That makes absolutely no sense. You will be wasting insane amounts of Valor upgrading an item 23 itemlevels instead of just 10.
person who designed that will get a rise and nice juicy quaterly bonus because of the tokens that will see because of boosts.
lets be realistic here
Exactly, every season is a regrind of the same gear and âvalorâ, upgrade them to progress your gear if M+ is your thing.
I think they try to push everyone into raiding disregarding the type of player you are
Also they will force players to increase engagement in the maw and torghast in future patches.