So when will you start banning every premade WSG group who camps Graveyards?

An easier solution would ofc be to give premade groups longer queue times if there are no other premade groups to play against. Let’s give premade groups a queue timer on 15-20 minutes to find another premade group to fight against. After those 15-20 minutes have passed and they’re still in queue you can let them fight against randoms. You know just to even out the rep and honor farm.

Oh and you could also hire maybe 1 or 2 GMs to ban every group who camps the enemy graveyard or stalls flag captures cuz griefing.

No problem doing the thinking for you

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Allys arr just bad

Griefing is allowed in pvp. It’s specifically allowed to corpse camp and prevent people for playing on pvp realms and in bgs. It has to be very extreme to be against the rules.

Thought people wanted classic with no changes? You’re saying you want changes?

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Allow me to correct your misunderstanding: people wanted to relive the classic experience.

Ah, well, I’m sad to announce individual experiences may vary, I can assure you ‘grieving’, ‘unfair treatment’ and ‘imbalanced’ was a large part of vanilla wow.

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The extent of those things determines how they are experienced by the players. For example (fictitious numbers) If premades were 20% of the games you encountered as a pug back then but today it becomes 90% then I don’t think anyone would argue that that isn’t a vastly different experience. Even to the point that you might say it isn’t at all similar anymore.

I honestly think that most of the complaints people have/had about PvP can be traced back to the fact that every server used to be a small single server community. In this particular example, even if some premades would be running you could still get into other games. I suspect the entire region having many premades pushes pug players away which makes the pug:premade ratio even worse.

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Well they made constant changes to the world it’s no longer classic but classic+, can’t mind control people off boats and zeppelins, can’t use the wsg portals, etc. We already have classic +, the question is how much of + it should be.

What is this talk about premades ruining WSG? Not matching against any here :slight_smile:

Again another pointless post from you.

Not sure if bad trolling or you just want to play another game than classic.

All i read from your post is wahhhhh I cant win ban them! wahhhhh

Get over it graveyard camping isn’t griefing its a legimate tactic to stop the enemy team from recovering. Its only terrible teams that can even get graveyard camped anyway so your doing something wrong.

And if your seriously wanting to ban players who take the time to get premades then your pathetic and shouldnt have stepped foot into PVP if you actually thought it was just going to be games full of randoms 24/7.

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A wise man once said " gut gut "

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Every single WSG game I do, is against a premade. It’s ridiculous… premades should be vs. premades and pugs should be vs. pugs. Not hard for blizzard to implement.

They will be banned when GY camping is made to be against the rules.

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IF you farm wsg for high ranks (18h a day) you want to do that affecient as posible.
Camping gy is not to greef you, its to prevent heroes to snatch flag and run away (if u let a half decent druid, thats in the mood to troll the premade snatch the flag, it can take quite A while to recap :D).
I hope this atleast helps you understand why! It happens.

Allow me to correct your misunderstanding:

YOU CANT go BACK IN TME!

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Nowhere did I state that. I understand you’re upset about the reality that people didn’t want a carbon copy of vanilla but instead wanted to relive the vanilla experience because that hurts your troll “you think you do but you don’t” posts you insist on making in every thread on this forum even though you don’t even play classic at all.

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