So WoW is now Pay-To-Win eh?

What is all this excuse makign ?

You get from start 395 gear from random bgs from capping conquest 415.
YOu cap 10 times conquest you get 430 just from that.

Want above 430 you do rated simple as that what kind of excuses is this?

You are just envious pve players get gear and do not touch PVP while you get gear same way as i do from PVE someone could at worst say you get it slower still someone could say you can get it faster.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: If you think life or w/e you do in life like gaming is about gold/time ratio then, idk…but it sounds simple and frankly, sounds also like good material for regret once you’ll be 50, 60 and looking back on your life.

Additionaly, your argument…gold/time is a subjective value to someone as well. Someone like me…who uses both in service of his satisfaction.

Also, bottom line: you’re (metaphorical you) paying for something you’re not able to do yourself. And this is not something like a tyre change or apartment plumbing where you can say “eh i throw money so i dont get dirty”…this are your reflexes and comprehension of the (gaming) environment that is lacking. Like…you’re terribad at something quite simple. This isn’t something to be proud of and as such is ripe for improvement which will never happen if you keep paying.

Let me put it another way…paying for intercourse is never as satisfactory as doing it as a consequence of you clicking up with someone and it just happens (or so ive heard :face_with_hand_over_mouth: )

i dont know if this is sarcasm or not xD

Maybe we could call boosting “gear doping”?

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Not a bad term to be honest.

You cannot buy skill. What you are describing is the attempt to replace skill with gear, which is among the most foolish things and the bane of many unpleasant group experiences.

Wrong.

The tokens where introduced to get rid of the gold sellers. It was a tactic already used in other MMO’s and had proven successful.

Also, Blizzard do not sell gold, the person ‘selling’ the gold is the player that buys the Token from another player.

I’m confused? 🤷.

Blizzard sell game time, players sell their gold for a game time token.

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goldsellers are still there just like at any other mmorpg.

blizzard sells the token for 20euro instead of 13, they pocket 7 euro.

blizzard sells the token to someone for 20 euro and then they sell that token to someone else for gold, basicly selling gold.

That is not very uncommon trait for Human Paladins.

Trade chat used to be full of gold selling spam, I haven’t seen any since the introduction of the tokens, of course they’re still there, but in a vastly reduced profile.

That’s exactly what I said, your point is ?

Saying Blizzard are selling gold is like saying your local second hand shop is selling money.

If Blizzard where selling gold, where would it come from ? Or would we see some incredible inflation as millions of gold is magically introduced to the economy. All the buying and selling of tokens does is move existing gold about.

blizzard is selling gold the same way goldsellers are selling gold but the only difference is that goldsellers steal the gold from ‘‘hacked’’ accounts and blizzard gets it from selling a token to other players.

atleast we assume its like that but since we can’t see in blizzards systems we don’t know if they actually manually control the price and just ‘‘print’’ tokens, and they would never admit it if they do.

English is obviously not your first language as you appear to have a totally different interpretation of the word ‘selling’. That or you just don’t understand how tokens work. I’ll let you stay in your little make believe world while I carry on in the real world.

You are not wrong though.

Like every discussion in the community :laughing:

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Well as I always said you can’t please everyone :laughing:.

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Really?

Pick one :point_up:, keep in mind Time is a euphemism for Fun and the reason why I can predict everyone’s choice here is that one has more value than the other.

2 is greater in value than 1, a synonym for Greater is Better.

But in general (to everyone) it’s objective in value, right?

So it will get you more accurate results than using fun as a metric to gauge the worth of Pay To Win.

sell

/sɛl/


*verb*

gerund or present participle: **selling**

1. 1.

give or hand over (something) in exchange for money.

"they had sold the car"

guess what blizzard is doing? omg am i seeing that right? omg are they exchanging gold for your money? omg that can’t be right :scream:

Look, i appreciate you trying this dissection of words, but really, summa summarum, if you need to buy a boost you’re kinda bad.

Do you want to dissect who takes pleasure and fun from being bad?

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