Thanks for nothing Blizzard. We asked for fresh classic, some ret(ail)ards even for classic + and we will get season of changes. Not 1 change you made was good. Not 1 Single. Making content harder ? Just a joke. Did you raid molten core by yourself ? I could clear it with closed eyes in green gear. You absolutely don’t understand your own game it is just pathetic what you want to give us and even want money for it.
Give us fresh era or see SoM fail as retail did.
#NoChanges
+1, just rerelease classic from 2 years ago.
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As you may have notice some like it, some do not. Childish approach won’t increase chances of adding normal fresh to the list.
With all the ez-mode cheese it brought that didn’t had anything to do with “vanilla spirit” of the original game?
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Just release Classic from 2019 with progressive itemization, no boosting allowed on dungeons and banning bots, perfect game. For anything else → Retail
However to comment with nonesense on every forum post doesnt make SoM a good game.
It was not easy. 70% of Player that i saw on multiple Server were too bad to clear a raid proberly.
World buffs easy Mode? No it was a gift to speedrun classic content if you was good enough for the game. If you aren’t just play in a guild that don’t require it and raid molten core in 1 1/2 hours instead of 40 minits.
Facts on god my doggie, Give me wbuffs or miss me with this garbo.
Classic got spellcleave leveling, streamers falling asleep in instances farming for exp had nothing to do with what Vanilla was and represented. Then due to that exp in instances we got super boosting - to quickly generate any amount of alts at 60 and to generate thousands of gold, so RMT and GDKP runs can flourish. Swipe and you can get any gear…
There is Blizzard fault at not going hard against botting in the first place and not really wanting to intervene when players find a way to cheese Classic hard. To release a version of WoW where leveling took time to then allow players to make the game without real leveling…
Raid changes in SoM are questionable and can backfire and related WB change as well… although their acquisition wasn’t liked (and random wipes do happen).
Blizzard will never do anything against bot’s. Also with increased mining, herbs and no dungeon grinds for mages bot’s will Just farm open world and it will even be more worse then before and all the boomers that are happy right now will cry like babys more then before.
At least they will be visible so there will be more than toon lists in BRD showcasing botting in the game.
That is just delusional. That Just means that you cant farm open world. How you wanna outplay 50 rogues per zone each Server?
If it will be as spammed then it will break into the mass gaming media and Blizzard will be just beyond salvation. Maybe then all current management will be replaced by some Activision studio that has to make good products to get cash and continue to have work.
(and recently even private servers are starting to release their Fresh - even same one that quickened it previous fresh to end prior to Classic).
Usually I reject a opinion made from a guy owning every single blizzard brand soft toy in advance, but I read through yours anyways and it gave a me a good giggle. YOU are the customer big companies need.
Remember the last big drama revolving around blizzard and Co.? All subs from people screaming ontop of their lungs on twitter are still running. 
This is why #nochanges was so important, Blizzard ruin everything they touch, they simply cannot be trusted, at all, ever.
World buffs are gone, raids are now twice as long - who is this for? Some complainers who will quit after BWL whatever the game-state? And even those complainers didn’t want TRASH buffed, nobody in the history of wow has ever asked for longer trash, but here we are anyway, 4 hour MC+BWL, hope nobody burns out choking down that turd.
Post Shadowlands Blizzard lost many content creators and streamers. They went from pretty much top on Twitch to somewhere “much lower”. That a hit that will hurt them during earnings calls / investor calls.
Even Asmon left harder that he thought he would. World First mythic raiders also went FF14 and now they are having fun and planning to race in Endwaler. They saw how good MMO can be without Blizzard nonsense. What happened is permanent. On retail pretty much only whales are left.
I stopped playing prior to TBC p2 and resubbed now because of SoM as I want to have a fun more organic “FRESH”. If it won’t be fun I’ll just stick to Endwalker. I don’t care how “Classic” should be or should not be, how it should be or should not be played. If it’s what I want to play I will and if not it will land in the trash bin where it belongs. OG Blizzard Classic was far from perfect, IMHO private servers did a way better job than Blizzard.
We had "#nochanges and players degenerated the game way beyond recognition. And as you mention the actual problem is with the game publisher/owner - if it can’t manage it own game then there is a big problem.
Blizzard thinks Classic players are same like retail ones and that they like “raid progression” just with different items and talent trees. Or their “superiority complex” kicked in and they are doing it on purpose to mock Classic players and old designs as inferior.
+1 just re-release classic from 2019 with fastes phases. No one wants to do mc slower
100% Agree and without any weird feature, just doing the game as it should be.
At the end of the day when you love the games you’re working on, they end being better than the games you do for money.
Actually most of them had some changes that prevented players from some abuses. Like DM lashers farm was modified by pretty much everyone. On on server there was a bonus mob you had to avoid while on other one patrol has super speed. Both servers allowed you to farm but they made it harder so less players did it or less often = less generated gold.
Pathing abuse wasn’t a thing even technically, instance mobs weren’t giving bonus exp (and no one thought they should) so instances were awful for boosting.
And soon there will be K4 which just like K3/K2 will be vanilla but with… WB disabled for the first month of a tier, 5g respec cost cap and BG queue from anywhere if you are below 60. Plus harder content progression (you won’t get Rumsey Black Label earlier than day before AQ opens, same with fishing schools which also originally were introduced at that point).
Yup, what a days to be alive… I mean sure wasn’t 2005 blizzlike but they fixed the game when players could break it, like farming abuse that would cause economic damage… or booting/cheating…
K4 will be great as all K have been, but DOA because of SoM, even with the custom things K’s have, they’re great enough.