SOME Wow players are the most toxic i have seen in 40 years of gaming

[Duraace-anachronos]

@Zantria-argent-dawn

So you are denying that was toxic behaviour? You generalized the entire playerbase, calling them all “obnoxious Gits”.
Is it really shooting the messenger or are you just denying you are currently behaving in the same way the people you met were?
Look, im not denying WoW has bad apples, as any community does, but you behaving in such a way really isnt helping your case here.

Read the thread. I explained myself already and fell no need to justify mysef to you… I have no idea why you are chiming in with that. Seriously.

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Duraace-anachronos

Read the thread. I explained myself already and fell no need to justify mysef to you… I have no idea why you are chiming in with that. Seriously.

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I made some claims and can’t back them up without admitting I said wrong things.

[Zantria-argent-dawn]

So basically you just realized you said some things that werent very smart and instead of admitting that you double down and throw a tantrum, gotcha.

[Aspie-silvermoon]

Hey there, I haven’t read all the comments, but if no one mentioned it, there are great mythic plus communities with friendly players who do not tolerate toxicity.

Here’s one: https://discord.com/invite/mythicplusfriends

[Talanus-chamber-of-aspects]

Atari 800XL? You’re nought but a cub. When I were a lad I got up 4 hours before I went to bed, to play on my Atari 2600 VCS, so I could beat Asteroids before I went down t’ pit, before school. But we were 'appy.

Some poetic license there, but my 2600 was real.

[Irieaala-argent-dawn]

@Duraace-anachronos

But for me its wow players who are the most toxic and there is not one thing you can say or do to change that fact.

But it isn’t a fact, a fact is something based on the truth, not anecdotal evidence.

[Duraace-anachronos]

@Grondash-draenor

Ok grandpa/grandma, dont forget take your medicine next time.

And peole say i am toxic? But thanks for makign my point. Have a nice day.

[Grondash-draenor]

@Duraace-anachronos

And peole say i am toxic?

Reading all your replies in this thread, one can say yes.

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Talanus-chamber-of-aspects

Atari 800XL? You’re nought but a cub. When I were a lad I got up 4 hours before I went to bed, to play on my Atari 2600 VCS, so I could beat Asteroids before I went down t’ pit, before school. But we were 'appy.

Some poetic license there, but my 2600 was real.

I loved my 800 XD
Remember loading up games with the cartridges as well as the tape drive.
Man I miss these games:

• Rapid River
• Pitfall 2
• Fort Apocalypse
• Arkanoid
• Bruce Lee
• Submarine Commander

Especially the last one, fond memories of sitting on my dad’s lap while he translated the onscreen text and manual so we could figure out together how the game worked XD

[Duraace-anachronos]

@Irieaala-argent-dawn

But it isn’t a fact, a fact is something based on the truth, not anecdotal evidence.

It is a fact to me. As i have claimed. To me. I feel that way. What i observed, is my experience.

Anecdotal experience? Is this a wiki page and i need to cite references?

This term does not even belong in this discussion as you are attemting to claim that a casual experience, in any form, is not a valid experience at all and is not deserving of a thought , or opinion.

You are attempting to nullify something i experienced in the game with a, franky, silly comment.

You are not even capable of undersanding the original threads title.

[Cylaris-argent-dawn]

@Nannexx-argent-dawn

You are mixing up human society with the WoW playerbase.
Humanity is at a bloody deep dark state when it comes to social interactions with strangers, especially in the internet.
Everybody is the bloody god of their trait and everybody else is just a huge inconvenience they have to deal with. This general behaviour is getting worse by the year. In anything but “only WoW”.

I think it’s mostly a somewhat weird side effect of convenience and lack of hiccups waiting wise. I’ve noticed even with your example of shopping, give people a long line where they are forced to wait and smalltalk will happen. It’ll be awkward at first, and you’ll get one grouch at least, but people will start talking.

In that sense oldschool mmorpg’s (and I count vanilla WoW among them) had more opportunity for ‘behaviour that naturally occurs when people need to wait and/or go slow’. I think, especially when you are interacting with strangers, that is a fortunate thing because plenty of people do want interaction and connection on some level. And then you’re reminded most people are decent and friendly. I think the lack of this reminder at regular times creates a vacuum where distrust and fear flourish. Something like that.

[Coopsmonk-silvermoon]

Healers are toxic, constantly threatening to leave keys that are easily on time.

[Beerwolf-sunstrider (Beerwolf)]

You mustn’t have had much exposure to other games if you honestly think WoW’s the most toxic…

League of Legends is infamous, and World of Tanks’ makes theirs look like Care Bears.

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Cylaris-argent-dawn

In that sense oldschool mmorpg’s (and I count vanilla WoW among them) had more opportunity for ‘behaviour that naturally occurs when people need to wait and/or go slow’. I think, especially when you are interacting with strangers, that is a fortunate thing because plenty of people do want interaction and connection on some level. And then you’re reminded most people are decent and friendly. I think the lack of this reminder at regular times creates a vacuum where distrust and fear flourish. Something like that.

This I fully agree with.
In the older versions of the game, you simply couldn’t afford to be abusive or toxic.
Because servers were isolated, and people like this got isolated pretty quickly from everyone.

But this also emphasizes the point that toxicity always has been there.
We just dealt with it differently back then.

[Irieaala-argent-dawn]

@Duraace-anachronos

And peole say i am toxic?

@Duraace-anachronos

yeah,i still stand by my statement that wow players are some of the most obnoxious gits

@Duraace-anachronos

They are freaking nasty people.

Gee, I wonder why someone might think that, not to mention the attitude you have towards others stink, no wonder people are snarky in response.

@Duraace-anachronos

Anecdotal experience? Is this a wiki page and i need to cite references?

You said it was a fact, it is not infact, a fact, it’s something that you have anecdotal evidence on and thus base your claims of it.

@Duraace-anachronos

You are attempting to nullify something i experienced in the game with a, franky, silly comment.

WoW players are not toxic at all, and this is a fact.

@Duraace-anachronos

You are not even capable of undersanding the original threads title.

Oh but I am, just because I disagree with you doesn’t mean I do not understand the title.

[Sinaaki-argent-dawn]

Ok, wow players are the most toxic you’ve ever met. Have you considered not playing with pugs?

[Keento-argent-dawn]

@Beerwolf-sunstrider

You mustn’t have had much exposure to other games if you honestly think WoW’s the most toxic…

League of Legends is infamous, and World of Tanks’ makes theirs look like Care Bears.

At least Riot tried implementing systems and started acting on reports.
No idea how effective it is though.

[Zantria-argent-dawn]

@Duraace-anachronos

It is a fact to me

Thats quite literally not know that works, but you do you.

[Beerwolf-sunstrider (Beerwolf)]

LoL’s system of using peers to pass judgement is long gone, think it’s like WoW now where it’s all automated after so many reports.

[Punyelf-draenor (Punyelf)]

My most toxic experiences where when I started the game in TBC. Toxic players have always existed IMO. It’s a miracle I didn’t stop back then but I have a much better experience these days than back then.