Hey everyone;
I just realized that the enemy population is huge and unusual. I want you to know i always play with warmode on in every expansion i have been since cata. But never seen anything like this. In every spot every map every location every questline i count atleast 8-10 allience and few horde like 2 or 3 if lucky. Im just trying to figure out the situation if its normal. But i dont think it is… I dont think that whole horde players plays war mode off. There is huge pvp community in horde as allience did. I saw it before. Maybe its just the system issue, sharing the servers may get wrong i dont know. All i know is its %100 unusual.
Please feel free to post your thoughts here i want to know the situation from your perspective also. Best regard…
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It varies as far as I can see. Feels pretty good in the first 3 zones I’ve been in. Stealth is handy tho 
is just broken, im playng alone from day one.
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Phasing is being weird. I literally didn’t see a single Alliance player in Shadowlands until you get to the Arena area on Maldraxus. Alliance all over the place. Then i did that quest and poof, all Alliance players were gone from existence until i dinged 60.
If you are talking of rp servers I would guess most have turned it off by now. It’s unplayable as horde.
Perhaps there’s still some corpse camping rogues around, but more than that, nope. No point. Systems is broken.
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feeling the same. the horde is totally outnumbered since shadowlands. everywhere we are getting swarmed, being scared to get out venari refuge. but still have 10% wm bonus and quess allies have their 30%. what the hell?
ps as u can see im playing on kazzak - one of the most horde populated euro realms, at least it used to be.
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I had WM on for several expansions. I do not know why but there are WAY more alliance players now. And for some reason they have +30% war mode bonus, horde only have 10%!?
I’m being ganged 24/7 all the time, so I turned WM off.
There has to be an irony in this somewhere, horde have enjoyed smashing alliance for a whole expansion and now upset they suddenly don’t have their free reign and warmode actually means danger again.
Nice to see alliance putting in a performance in warmode for once and balancing the tables a bit.
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yes horde dominated wvw on most shards in BFA, but then again horde did not get +30% at any time in BFA, now alliance is dominating and getting +30%.
so there is something to complain about.
but then again I would love for blizzard to remove shard hopping or make the bonus shard specific to the faction that is outnumbered on the shard, and we know they have the tech to do the last one given it would be something alike the same they did with najzitar to start the pvp event.
u describe the situatuion as if horde and alliance are balanced and horde doesnt like it, but here we are talking about outnumbering. in bfa allies suck only cos they were hiding in wm off, its confirmed by the fact that they completely competed with horde on wednesdays then again dive down their wm off hole and dissapear until the next wed.
There’s still more horde. Cause there’s a little more ally with wm on now the horde cry threads are starting. Its about even in shadowlands zones maybe a little more horde at times usually from kazzak. BG ques on ally are very fast. From what I’ve read on horde they’re still long
Well walking round today the world is most definitely still tilted horde dominant but there are more with WM on currently on alliance, still weighted horde heavy though.
I would assume this will drop of for blue as people cap most likely as before and turn it off.
a little more? u been smoking ur socks? 95% of the shards ive been on is ally dominated. Time for blizz to remove the 30% bonus from allys
I guess that’s just because alliance players are better? The system dictates the outnumbered faction gets a larger benefit
It’s dynamically calculated, not static. So even if you feel you’re outnumbered, you’re not. Unless there’s some kind of bug
Looks like blizz is still using numbers from bfa. How many players retunered in shadowlands? “fastest selling pc game of all time”
On the shards i get zoned into yeah its pretty balanced sometimes more horde but there’s definitely more ally since bfa or its cause horde are turning wm off cause ally are aggressively ganking which I often do myself cause wpvp and bgs are what I enjoy and feel like horde prefer to mythic plus and raid
That depends on the realm. There will always be a majority Alliance or Horde player population. So far I find myself being outnumbered by Horde players. More often 1 v 2 or 1 v 3 (because Horde can’t 1 v 1).
Perhaps Blizzard can release more information on player populations in regards to balance.
When i was leveling in the first few days i found it odd how i saw literally no other players, i thought maybe i was ahead of the pack or something (doubtful, i’m not a fast leveller). The only other players i did happen to see now and again were evenly split between alliance/horde. I thought maybe they were being extra careful with sharding so people didn’t lag too much in busy areas or something.
Now at 60 every populated world quest is a couple of groups of alliance running around the area farming the one or 2 horde who are stupid enough to forget that alliance have a quest for a world pvp. So they will gather a big group, turn on Warmode for an hour, demolish the world quest areas, then turn warmode off again for the week. That’s my theory for why it feels imbalanced anyway. It’s not the people who always have warmode on creating the problem, it’s the people who turn it on for the quest. Even if numbers are in hordes favour most of the time it will never feel like it in this situation.