SP need nerfs now

I guess we misunderstood each other. What i meant by “on demand” i didnt mean without cooldown. I mean’t u don’t need to cast, like others do.

i called it before patch i said SP and RET would be Meta

so i was 50% right lol

nerf Void leech and Entropic rift, and SP should be more in line

I can’t tell if I’m just losing my mind these days but do we know if Void Leech is affected by dampening?

Doesn’t feel like it to me but idk.

Void leech will 100% get a heavy nerf similar to how the hunter hero talent passives were nerfed. I’m all for that, passive defensives like that shouldn’t exist in the first place. But no point hoping for other than this and some slight damage nerf.

As someone in this thread so eloquently said, “sp is now a target dummy that fights back”. Indeed it is, that’s the intended design. If sp does trash damage it’s just a regular target dummy that falls over after you press W at them for a while.

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Is there any other class that has two major defensives that you have to go through before being able to find a kill window?

Its so easy for the sp to just cycle between
His Disperse
His healer’s major cd
His lifeswap
His Disperse again
His healer’s major defensive cd again
His lifeswap again

And on and on and on and on…

on top of doing a lot more self healing than other dps classes and passively (this can maybe stay, cuz they are immobile)

But now they are also highest damage on top of everything else

the funny thing is good spriests werent even struggling before this to get rly high in rankings

i dont have a huge complaint with spriest. But i think lifeswap should be like 10 min cd or something

Biggest issue with Lifeswap imo is that it doesn’t care about dampening.

I know the thread is about SP, but Disc would probably be a lot more reasonable relative to other healers if their entire defensive toolkit weren’t unaffected by dampening.

yeah theres no way this thing will stay like this. its completely broken

Is it as annoying when playing a caster/healer or even melee to get constantly gripped by DK as example? :slight_smile:

I know this is just another regular nerf thread, but I find it’s always better to keep the complaints realistic.

Do you know that swap has a 5 min cd? It’s not common to see it more than once per game. Because in this scenario it seems like you think it has a 2 min cd or something, if it somehow is supposed to stop every third attempt to kill the sp.

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everyone knew this buff was unjustified. It’s just blizz logic to buff specs is wrong. They probably just watch numbers and when they see certain spec numbers decline - they immidiately buff it hard. When they see certain specs numbers increase - they provide nerf. And sp weren’t really popular lately cuz people preferred mage,rogue,dk so their numbers started to drop

In PvE it was justified although not the solution. We all know that their focus on PvP is close to nonexistent so why are we even surprised about that?

Mage: Ice Block (x2), Alter Time, …
Paladin: Divine Shield, Blessing of Protection (physical), LoH, …

You can iterate over the other classes yourself.

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The biggest factor for it is actually, sp’s toolkit in a good players hands is able to carry a game cause it can make the cc setups on its own, where you are not dependent on the avarage monkey rss dps player :smiley:

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Vitality conduit was not affected by dampening in BFA.

I’m assuming they just copy pasted the code and it is not affected by dampening.

Which means the best way to kill the Spriest is to cleave down their whole team at the same time, otherwise tough luck.

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Oh no Spriest is doing good better nerf it immediately. Buff mage and rogue. /s

Keep coping buddy, arms changes/buffs are locked behind the swarm of room temp IQ casters who keep flooding the forums about how “overpowered arms is, i just got hit for x amount”, while forgetting to mention that their entire toolkit revolves around making sure arms doesn’t get to play, like ever.

That or they actually do send some random gigabuff and this spec becomes a 1deag damage cannon again, before eventual nerfs to midpack again

If anything Arms is gatekept by the room temp IQ FotM Fury rerollers tbh.

When Fury gets gutted, they aren’t going to pick up Arms and lobby for buffs, they’re going to reroll DH.

A shame, too. Arms being strong and playable is usually pretty healthy for the metagame, outside of those fringe scenarios where they

Nah, to quote Magnusz;

“been pressing the same globals as arms for the last 5 years as they continue to get worse and worse over time but some classes are on their 2nd rework of the expansion and the games been out for a month”

Warrior has been on a steady decline since Legion. Utility is gone, all the talents that used to enable you to stay as active as any other class are gone, you’re locked to the same 2 mobility buttons that by now have 15 different instant cast counters on a 30-45s cd window.

Arms players have been asking for changes for AGES, and people counter every ask with a lukewarm argument like “yeah but in season 2 shadowlands…”

Literally everything that was unique to arms or war in general has been homogenized to every single other class/spec, leaving behind something that does the same thing as the others, but unironically just worse.

Name one thing arms does atm better than any other class (besides dying to air). I’ll wait.

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it still blows my mind that war has a stun with a travel time. every time i log my dk or rogue or hunter and press my stun its like you forget what gameplay feels like without 300ms lag

i’d love them to take a look at hamstring as well.

the 2nd worst slow in the game on a class that actually needs a slow is literally just hamstring but it also refreshes on melee attacks (monk) and even mws get it lol. imagine having a worse slow than a healer.

yea i love pressing hamstring and still being out of range in melee range. xd

Warrior is legit the only class ingame that can still GENUINELY be deadzoned LOL

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I deadzone fury warriors during enraged regen like 5x a day if i queue bgs its so pathetic haha. Just walk backwards and gnome racial off their hamstring and thats it they’re screwed.