Spectral tiger solution

Except your opinion is contradicted by fact. It’s the equivalent to saying ‘In my opinion 1+1 = 10’. That’s fine, but it clearly isn’t. Here, let me work through your contradictory viewpoint just so it gets into your brain:

Mount is a reward. You said it’s ‘pretty much a worthless reward’, and then you U-turn and say if you use it…you no longer consider it worthless?

Therefore, me using my MOUNT REWARD, means that in your opinion, it’s not a worthless reward. Ergo, contradicting your initial point.

Well Blizzard seem to not think it is since they have explicitly said they are fine with leaving skill based rewards as they are.

No it isn’t. ‘Nobody cares’ is an objective statement. ‘There is no prestige’ is an objective statement. If you don’t want people to interpret your statements as objective, maybe attach an ‘in my opinion’.

You have never won a ranked arena match in your entire time playing and you unironically think you’re currently ‘more than good enough’ to be a top 1% player in the bracket? You have never killed a mythic boss when it’s been current tier and you think you’re ‘more than good enough’ to clear it during current tier? On what grounds do you have that belief?

Entitled and egotistical. Hilarious.

Easy to say that now when you aren’t actually doing it. I wonder what your perspective would be after dealing with all the frustrations and downsides of actually pushing high end content before finally achieving your desired rewards. Alas, we’ll never know.

Okie dokie, but I’m not the one that’s been flagged :slight_smile:

I do know that, which is why I haven’t done it. If you think I have, then I’m going to get banned, aren’t I?

Maybe, just maybe, (well, clearly definitely) other people think that you have been inappropriate by resorting to personal digs rather than focusing on the actual game. Or is your ego too big to think that’s a possibility?

This is an inaccurate comparison. It would be accurate if EVERYBODY that killed the mythic boss received the mount and that the mount was attached to the achievement of killing the mythic boss. They do not because it is not, it becomes part of the loot table, therefore it is RNG whether you get it. I killed Mythic N’Zoth when it was current tier, didn’t get the mount, I am not complaining.

The ‘equivalent’ is AOTC, where killing the boss gives everybody that killed it the mount. Which, Blizzard have already clarified that they are not going to be changing the way skill based rewards are distributed.

Whether you personally get the Mythic mount is completely RNG.

Gladiator mounts are always tied to performing successfully during current content. It is not the same thing as running Mythic raids on X amount of alts and 1 tapping the boss and hoping you get it in your loot table.

Earning Gladiator is always dependent on your performance against other people.

We understand what we read, I replied to this comment:

But classic Tah derails and fills the thread with contradictions. Oh well.

Great, the topic went completely off the rail. Let me just rewrite the title to “why pvp rewards are the saddest thing in the game”…

Your idea is decent tbh and I would personally have no issue with something like that for Spectral Tiger since that mount has nothing to do with your performance in game.

Unfortunately for you an argumentative solo player came in complaining that things should be permanently obtainable.

I completely missed that at the time (I’ve zero interest in the mount, it just never hit my radar it seems :wink: ) and I understand better why you’d see it as a rectification. I very rarely see the mount, that’s all I know.

Personally I’d rather see it return as a new model, high fidelity, and leave the old one as it is I think. Imo they’ve done a good job on the updated cats, the ones from Darkshore for example are great, very close to the original and yet much improved.

tfw when you bring up your idea for Spectral Tiger and people start talking about the state of education in England.

Seriously everyone, what the heck are we doing?

Spectral tiger is so spectracular. Not sure why many don’t like it.

It’s fascinating. Something with free association mixed with verbal pvp. I’ll regularly end up going on a happy detour myself, so it’s not a dig at anyone lol.

I be likin’ da part where de gnome kept baitin’ da elf priestess. Dat be some fine work, true Darkspear mojo right der.

I have the mount, but I’d allow it just to read the forum outrage lmao

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Old ugly model.
For me basically that’s the reason.

A lot of people follow the same view as you. Including myself. The entire reason why so many people want it available is due to the “status” it has attached to it.

You make it readily available to everyone, and the mount would be forgotten about in a week.

If they’d add it to the cash shop, trading post or similar, then yes, that’d instantly devalue it. I’d want them to avoid that, and instead make it so that it is still locked behind a large effort to get.

There is no rng, it’s %100 drop and you do progress with guild not after %60 nerf and running pugs for rng drops. Every guild have a different loot management so you might get it in 1st week or 20th week. It was dropping 2x %100 mount in BFA.

I quess you are mistaking progress with buying mythic boost. Did you ever try raiding with a guild? Progressed for some weeks? Killed last bosses without any nerfs? It’s not an easy task.

If Gladiators were so super prestigious than raiding, why 10k people were watching arena tournaments while 200k people watching world 1st race? Am I missing something?

It’s a 100% drop rate but it is RNG whether YOU get it. It is therefore not the reward from the achievement of killing the boss, whereas Gladiator is. Simple difference, not sure how you don’t get it.

I did.

Sorry are you an Echo/Limit raider?

Nope, PVE is way more popular than PvP, not sure how that’s relevant to anything here?

Do we have to be part of E-Sport team to talk about something in this game?

We’re talking about the obtainability of mounts and you’ve just brought up E-sports randomly? HUH?

You are asking interesting questions. Okey, lets get back to the topic. Now we have 2v2, 3v3, rated bgs and solo shuffles. Only 3v3 gets gladiator mounts since TBC, rest of the game mods gets nothing. Raiding mounts are not seasonal, you can still obtain them from BMAH or from bosses with %1 chance even after expansion. But why it’s not seasonal like glad mounts? If it would be, pvp players would ask for raiding mounts to be obtainable like I’m asking right now for glad mounts should be obtainable. Why gatekeeping?

Again, the reward of a mount from Mythic is NOT equivalent to getting a mount for achieving Gladiator.

Everybody with AOTC has a mount from that achievement, not everybody that has killed a mythic end boss when it’s current tier has the mount, because it is RNG if YOU personally get it. If when you killed a mythic end boss the REWARD for the achievement was that mount specifically, then you’d have a point. But, it isn’t, so you don’t.

Because the mythic mount isn’t a reward FOR completing the achievement. It is an extra item that is added to the loot table, and whether you get it depends on RNG.

I have played in most of expansions. I had my most pve mounts in expansions where they have 1st introduced them. I gave my time in those pve seasons. I’m not a gatekeeper but you are. Maybe they should design new mounts in the next expansion as seasonal so everybody can gatekeep the mounts that they have. I bet it will make you happy.

I think the reward system is fine as it is.

There are 3 mounts from end game content that are limited time only: Gladiator, KSM, and the PvP one for filling the bar.

3 mounts. According to simplearmory, there are 881 obtainable mounts in this game. I think you’ll be fine without 3. If you want them, go and earn them, you have plenty of time.