[SPOILER] The Runecarver is

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sorry about the links beforehand

Just like the title says. If you connect the dots, it makes so much sense…

Quoting someone from Reddit here;
"I personally agree with this theory because I mean, the Runecarver fits the description of the Primus near-perfectly. We have a master blacksmith/runeforger who was known for his amazing weaponry and leading abilities.

We have this character who looks similar to the only statue we’ve seen of the Primus who has no memory but displays insane runeforging and blacksmithing skills, enough that if we can provide his missing memory, he will build us armor unlike any other."

Other reasons are:

1. The Primus has been gone for a long time and The Runecarver has been in Torghast for a long time.

2. His memory has been wiped so he wouldn’t know if he was The Primus or not.

3. The visuals look pretty similar. There is a statue in the (I give up on grammar) seat of the primus that contradicts this, which looks like this:

‘http:/ /prntscr.com/wfl7yw’

In this statue, you see that the primus has antlers and 4 fingers whereas the runecarver has 5 fingers and no antlers. However, I don’t think that this is an accurate description. If you look at the big statue of the primus, you will see that he has 5 fingers and no antlers.

As seen here:
‘http:/ /prntscr.com/wfl9nc’

Quoting another person from reddit:

“Also, Maldraxxus is where the scourge originally comes from, and the runecarver is the one who forged the helm of domination and frostmourne. Both these guys have connections to the lich king”

Proof here: ‘https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6wF6KiwCAw’ (skip to around 1:00)

and another quote:

“In french both are voiced by the same actor, both are extremely talented craftsmen specialized in runes, the runic blade of the Primus looks like a proto frostmourne, the size of the guy is about right, his body wouldn’t look too out of place in Maldraxxus… And he is amnesiac” This could just be a coincidence but I don’t think it should be overlooked…

Also, if you skip to 0:55 in ‘https:/ /www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgFxswxKWpk’
You will see that sylvanas says us players breached the seat of the primus and discovered his message, and as she says this, it shows the room where the primus is.

This can not be a coincidence. I am 100% certain that the runecarver is the primus.

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Thanks for adding the spoiler tag but it’s useless if the title contains the spoiler.
You should change it to something like 'the runecarver is…" Or 'runecarver identity revealed"
so people don’t read the spoiler just glimpsing at the title.

Also, is it really a spoiler? Not confirmed yet but I’m under the impression that it’s pretty obvious. :joy:

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I thought the same the first time I saw the runecarver. I would be surprised if he isn’t the Primus.

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Blizzard are giving way too much lore to the runeblades, considering they are nothing more than a fancy weapon.

Frostmourne doesn’t matter without the Lich King. Dk’s puts rune on everything that fits the term “weapon”.

Yeah, Primus and the runecarverer are most likely the same being, but the reasoning behind it is so… weak.

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Fair point, done it now :grin:

Also I mean yeah, I just realized this so I had to have my little nerd moment haha

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Good morning

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But … Primus has 4 fingers … rune carver has 5 fingers … explain that ?

I do think the rune carver is the OG Jailor and the new jailor is a dark titan similar to Argus

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*Gasp *

This is something that clearly no one could tell before! I’m in shock!

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Blockquote
Frostmourne doesn’t matter without the Lich King. Dk’s puts rune on everything that fits the term “weapon”.

I think you miss-understand the lore surounding Frostmourne

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Frostmourne - a shard split from the frozen throne from Ner’zull, used in an attempt to ensnare Arthas Mentil, end up returning to the Frozene Throne in W3, was shattered in Wrath and reformed into the dual blades Frost DK use. It is heavily implied trough questing that the “frost” aspect is merely a side effect of it’s soul reaping and storing capacity.

Edit : In new lore (can be read as retrofitting the lore), it is shown that Frotmourne and the healm of damnation are made by the runecarver, doesn’t change the fact that my initial point that the blade is nothing without the Lich King.

Please enlighten me, what part of the lore I am misunderstanding.

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You missunderstand that the Sword Itself is used to Take Arthas - Ner’zhul made it under the eye of the nethrezim to undermine them. the sword was given power by Ner’zhul and his handlers but it itself was luring Arthas. if Ner’zhul had somehow died before arthas took up Frostmourne, its Power would still be Valid - but under the hands of who ever controls the Scourge.

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It was a well-known thing for the last few weeks… :rofl:

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It wasn’t obvious from the get go. There was Maldraxus part of quest which said what was Primus doing as a person and then after that there was TH story part regarding Runecarved that linked to that Maldraxus story so you would need to play for like a few weeks to get both pieces of information.

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Do you have any citation for that? Especially with the new lore that states “no, it was not made by the Burning Legion, but from the Runecarver”.

The scourge is attached to the helmet (hence Bolvar could control it), the blade itself had the status of “tool used to make Arthas into an agent of the Lich King”. Yes, it is a nice “runeblade”, but attaching any more context to it is nothing more than assumptions and projection.

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Chronicles - so unless they have made that non cannon - if they have then fair

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It is all about using the Blade as a tool of control.

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Again, a champion, not the person in control.

Please don’t make me continue to go trough the… drag that is Chronicles.

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Blizzard:

Hey guys. The primus of maldraxxus is missing for years. His specialty is runecarving and creating weapons of unimaginable power. He’s also a huge guy, the size of a titan.

Oh and btw, there’s this huge guy who sounds and looks like primus in the maw and makes our runecarved legendary pieces. he has no recollection of anything but the jailer seems to be interested in his skill in runecarving and weaponry.

Our character sees this and is like… HMM. Interesting. I’ll use him as my personal legendary craftsman for now. No need to notify anyone else about this mysterious coincidence.

Eventual reveal happens and probably our character with a pikachu face will be AMAZED about the reveal.

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And he has the “memory” of something akin to almost all Legion legendary items.

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to be honest, I think that’s just because blizzard’s running out of ridiculous legendary piece names.

and the fact that some of them have the same power. Don’t really focus too much on the name of the items, unless they’re a really big and important one like frostmourne or ashbringer or something of that level.

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Oh no, you see on paper it is pretty neat idea - almost all great items in Azeroth are created by a smith of near titan powers.

However.

According to the Jailor both of his magnum opus were destroyed - By Sylvanas and by a dwarven made blade with a Naru core.
Almost all of the old Legendary items in question were related to Azeroth’s inhabitants (Kortira’s will, Ravencrest’s insignia, Sephus secret, etc), they were never hinted to be provided by an outside source.
If they want to centralize all in the power of Primus - why would he bother with petty trinkets, when the weapons of the supposedly strongest army in the world (the legion champions), are in need of repair.