See how history repeats? We shall learn from it!
She never shouldâve become Warchief in the first place, for oneâŚ
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Same here raid looks beautiful and dungeon to ![:heart_eyes:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/heart_eyes.png?v=6" ":heart_eyes:")
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Volâjin was tricked into naming her. Whatâs the issue?
That he trusted voices in his head after being stabbed with a fel weapon
That he didnât do crap in the short time he was Warchief
That he became Warchief in the first place
That Garrosh went the way he did
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Horde donât have loyalty! looks like a group of passengers who r there at the moment. Sylvanna have different methods about winning war but she is great tactician even if she is dark. Saurfang and Baine for me a just a emos who want to die and donât care about Hrode at all!
Calling Saurfang and Baine emos, while praising Sylvanas, ironic.
âWhat joy is there to this curse?â
âWhat are we if not slaves to this torment?â
She also threw herself off LKâs throne once that was done, you speak of loyalty? She cared nothing about âher peopleâ and still doesnât, they are but tools for her pathetic attempt to never die.
Inviting the Nightborne was also a mistake, by the way.
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Fel isnât the go-to magic for mind control, not to mention the guy got stabbed by some random Fel Guard not a Dreadlord. It wasnât the Fel that jumbled with his mind.
That he didnât do crap in the short time he was Warchief
He defeated the Iron Horde and spearheaded the Garrosh rebellion.
That he became Warchief in the first place
He was the best for the job. The Horde should never be lead by an elf, and Baine was still too green. Thrall had kids.
That Garrosh went the way he did
Definitely a missed opportunity. Garroshâs crimes pale in comparison to Sylvanasâ, not to mention Garrosh was betrayed by 2 of his 3 advisors like 1 week into his office term.
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I know itâs wrong. But a small part of my brain went âyes, pleaseâ at that.
Mainly for the posibility of seeing the Gob Squad in a SG1 setting.
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Perhaps not go-to but it certainly could do stuff, also, trusting strange voices in your head to pick the worst candidate Warchief is silly in the first place.
He didnât defeat the iron horde, he was featured like, once or twice in the expansion.
Fair enough, though Iâd still prefer some orc
Thing is I donât think he shouldâve committed war crimes in the first place, shouldâve been that the land-sea attack on theramore wasnât only to lure in troops, but to let unarmed citizens escape, Garrosh didnât like Kromâgar for what he did.
Also the entire feel of MoP in general âyes, the ability to create soldiers with blood magicâ and all that, just⌠no.
He shouldnâtâve been perfect, but theyâve gone just way too far
The Warchief is still the commander of the Horde and gets full credit for his wins and defeats, just like how youâd fire a Football Manager who keeps getting losses. Even if heâs not the one playing.
Itâs been said that the Stonetalon questline where Garrosh is an honorable chap was a miscommunication. It wasnât supposed to happen. They always wanted him as a villain.
I donât mind Garrosh turning evil in MoP all that much, because by the time MoP hits, Cairne betrayed him, Volâjin betrayed him, and the blood elves were conspiring to turn Alliance.
My headcanon is that the Sha just manipulated his already paranoid thoughts ( and who could blame him? Thrall told him to trust his advisors and Cairne marches into Orgrimmar, insults him and attacks him for something he didnât do ).
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Not even that though, this is like firing your home cuontryâs football manager because you lost in a team that bought you. Khadgar was the one to lead the armies in that xpac.
Sad that the miscommunicated part was the best part, also Silverpine was nice.
Iâm also not a fan of a lot of that, blood elves considering the Alliance shouldâve been out of the question, Cairne being bullheaded was fine, and Volâjin went too far, itâd be nice if he spoke against Garrosh, but not âIâm gonna shoot a black arrow in your heartâ.
How about⌠we kill some Alliance leaders to make up for it?
I think they are at least 2 High Kings behindâŚ
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DEREK
KILLS
JAINA
Make it happen.
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And then Anduin light-ress Jaina�
No no pleaseâŚ
I prefer her to rise as a Lich rather than another holy undead crap
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She dies to an anti-ress dagger.
Itâs magic, I donât have to explain it.
Thatâs fair.
Lillian voss gonna plunge the blades of annotioned then?
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Not really. Volâjin had a good character arc in MoP only for them to do nothing with him in WoD and then subsequently kill him off in Legion. Iâm glad his story is continuing in BFA but he was terribly used as Warchief. The war against the Iron Horde was generally spearheaded by Khadgar and the âcommanderâ.
Sylvanas isnât a great tactician. The Burning of Teldrassil for instance was a spiteful act that accomplished absolutely nothing. Instead of âdestroying hopeâ the Night Elves just became super pissed and started a guerilla war, the Alliance retaliated in full at the Battle for Lordaeron and it was what began dissent in the Hordeâs ranks from Saurfang to Baine and now other implied Horde leaders.
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