Stop level 10 and 11 twinks

I keep running into random characters doling out half a million damage at like lvl 60 or 30 or w/e.
Rolling mostly tanks myself it makes pulls sometimes a challenge as my tanks aren’t twinked out monsters.
I haven’t quite figured out what
The triggers are to cause the scaling to go outta whack so hard.
Because I inspect and don’t see anything strange on these people.
But it does Make things interesting.

You can leave the dungeon/raid if you don’t like it? And you sound more toxic than the ones you are complaining about. Also Spoiler there is no challenge to leveling… and in dungeons you would prob still get carried…

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just today in tanaris i got this whisper from a twinker that they have a lvl 11 and can get me through the dungeons quickly .i was like nah .no fun at all.

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They do with a macro that breaks the rules - they boost others and they get full xp

https://youtu.be/5SjcdX17AkI?t=1245

Macro is in the description

Twinks in WoW always been, and always will be. Before lvl 19, lvl 70, 69 etc. It’s just FUN to do. Only one part of leveling and freedom of creativity that has left in this game. It’s fun to run fast and one shot everything, because you feel powerful even more than at 80lvl after getting 630 ilvl. And that’s not players problem. Don’t blame players, blame devs and this poor, forgotten, and lazy design that shouldn’t exist in any mmo = scaling.

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How can the macro break the rule, when you use it in the first place? I never heard of anyone getting banned or get warning from a ingame macro.

People ilvl 610 running around in Khaz Algar are also twinks.

So stop whining.

It can´t and they won´t, because it´s explicitly within the rules to use the macro commands blizzard provides to streamline your experience.

People just like to throw around accusations of cheating for everything they don´t fully comprehend, just like TSM is the go-to boogeyman for every Problem under the sun related to the AH :beers:

I just read this including the replies right under. I really cant see the problem. You get free badges, free tokens, free experience and you can just relax. I understand you and the reply stated following, “oneshot everything with no skill or challenge” and “I dont want to be carried”, I have to say - when has a NORMAL timewalking dungeon ever been something you played to challenge yourself? Not a single normal dungeon takes skill, so the fact you are making it so competetive is your own fault.

Not “to challenge ourselves” per se, but back when timewalking was first introduced (in MoP iirc) it was only easier than the OG experience was because we already had residual “this is how we used to do it” XP because we ran them while they were current only a few years prior.

Unfortunately, TBC heroics were actually legit hard in the day. Sheep /Sap /MC pulls, LoSing groups, the whole 9 yards that doesn´t even get fully explored in M+… So OFCe lots of people complained, because they had never seen the dungeons from the inside when they were current, only knew at best the much easier Wrath and heavily nerfed Cata Heroics from the browser, and as a result were getting roflstomped trying to faceroll them.

And with that, challenging Timewalking and heroic dungeons were forever lost to the late Wrath “everyone is stupoidly overgeared overgeared but needs justice and valor points” level of difficulty. :confused:

I like how you conveniently ignore several people telling you not all Twinks are selling boosts and list their reasons for twinking, as ive told you since this thread got started.

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They are using it so they can boost someone in a premade group. Usually if you pre group with a twink you won’t get xp, but this macro makes it so you leave and rejoin quickly so the xp debuff doesn’t apply.
So yes it is breaking the rules because Blizz doesn’t wan’t premades joining with a twink in and the non twinks getting xp.

Oh look another person tricking the system into thinking there isn’t a twink in the group with a premade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyob_6aVh3s&t=7s

Taken from the description

Twink boosting is back! This time with a lvl 11 fury warrior and this video goes over how you can boost or level up your friends from 10-70 in 4 hours time. You can actually go all the way to lvl 80 with timewalking but i only take my alts to lvl 70 at this time to setup concentration alts.

Question… would you really want the TBC HC experience back with no rewards…

Then why is the macro still doable? Anyways you can group up without the macro and with exp debuff on your just , just takes a few minutes instead of instant.

I cant see why it should not be allowed if it works on a macro. This is blizzard fault and bad coding.

Rewards, rewards,rewards, rewards… I can´t hear it any more…

Does anyone on Planet Earth still play this game for fun? Please contact me, we’re looking for survivors and we have cookies :rofl:

We didn´t race for realm first /world 10th sunwell for rewards, we did it for fun, and the challenge. The reward was the feeling of accomplishment.

People didn´t start playing HC because of rewards, it was the personal feeling of accomplishment of getting to 60 ALIVE!

But as soon as something becomes “Blizzard sanctioned”, everyone thinks they have to be able to participate in it (for ex m+ in general, or mythic raiding) and has to be somehow doable by everyone and be rewarded with purple banana stickers for participating even when they fail miserably.

These days everyone has to get 100 legendary banana stickers just to warrant continuing to breathe, it´s just ludicrous at this point…

So yes, I absolutely would like to have a reason outside of PvP for polymorph, sap and hex to exist, for more strategic and methodical gameplay that isn´t simutaneously racing a timer, which invalidaties many possible strategies as a way to progress Because you can play a “higher than you should be playing” M+ key like a TBC or Cata HC … the problem is getting that key, because outside of purchasing a boost anyone that has such a key can potentially time it in the right group.

If we could get something in PvE, be it dundeons /delves /Torghast /something open worls-ish, tha both has teh torghast /delve “completion is everything” sytem AND scales infinitely instead of stopping at “reasonably skilled player or highly overgeared potato”, , so that eventually you simply can´t outgear it anymore and have to start using your full toolkit or stand still for 5 seconds with your group and say “ok, so who´s ccing what, 2 of these 4 at the same time will kill us”, requiring re-ccs to also be reapplied mid fight for safety reasons and other similar things that are no longer common today in any content… I would be rocking that shiz 24/7/365 until the end of time

Or even just one actually challenging trash pack in raids … but then everybody whines that they’re wiping to it when they pull 3 packs together, so one of them has to become a miniboss that drops more crests than a real boss because he doesn´t drop loot, yaddayadda Purple banana stickers just for playing the game

Maybe I´m just getting to old, but it feels like everything has to be a mexican child’s birthday party, with cake, and candy, and epic loot… and I´m more into blackjack and hookers.

:beers:

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Your paying for the game… its a loot based game… the carrot has always been rewards…

Sorry but ppl did HC in TBC to get raid ready… that was the reward good gear.

I think your confusing what you do/like vs what others do and the genre in general.

" **If we could get something in PvE, be it dundeons /delves /Torghast /something open worls-ish, tha both has teh torghast /delve “completion is everything” sytem AND scales infinitely instead of stopping at “reasonably skilled player or highly overgeared potato”, , so that eventually you simply can´t outgear it anymore and have to start using your full toolkit or stand still for 5 seconds with your group and say “ok, so who´s ccing what, 2 of these 4 at the same time will kill us”

Solo a teir 11 Delve and come back to me lol outside of tanks I doubt DPS can do them with the random hard hitting spells… I Know this hunter couldn’t.

Oh look, another post of you ignoring the people with very valid reasons for having a twink.
Sure if theres people abusing it, punish those people, not Twinks in general. Those that are simply farming are doing nothing wrong and shouldnt be punished.

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No it hasnt, at least not for everybody, and especially not for those who´s footsteps everyone believes themselve qualified to follow in while screaming for more rewards.

What rewards do you get for pushing 17s right now? None… so why try?

What rewards do you get for running delves on 11 instead of 8? none, so why do it?

Why join a local football club if you ´re not getting sponsored by Nike and Fila?

Why go to the gym if you´re not plannning to compete in strongman contests?

Why go rock climbing if you ´re not sponsored by red bull?

The list of similar activities is sheer endless, and yet people still do them, even though nobody is giving them anything for it. I don´t know any other way to explain it, so I´ll stop trying. :beers:

I was actually planning on trying exactly that tonight anyway, and maybe taking another look at ZekVir ?? (was not doable with ilvl 600 after 5 tries, and it didn´t look like another 20-50 would get me far…), wish me luck. Or better yet wish me skill, becase if I need luck then I´m probably doing something wrong :rofl::beers:

edit and the verdict is in, 10s with are stil a bit too easy for my liking, but the difference between mobs with 9 mio vs 25 mio each is still a bit too heavy… zek will have to wait, bro neds the ansurek and council trinkets… :beers:

But it will be doable soon enough with a bit more itemlevel, and then the issue of it not scaling infinitely for no apparent reason, as was teh case with with torghast, becomes relevant again, with 2-3 months of the season still left :beers:

That´s the thing, it´s not like they can´t make an reasonable infinite scaling system, m+ and Diablo GRs are proof of that… it´s just that they never give it to PvE players outside M+, or use it in any setting that doesn´t have timers… Torghast on beta had infinite scaling and no timers, and was an absolute blast. Run for 4 hurs, suddenly wipe hard on level 69, no reward, still had a blast, so we go again. And then on live it was so undertuned and limited that I earned millions after the first 2 weeks carrying 4 others thorgh 8s and teh TC on a Blue demolock, and later with the TCS in raid gear… it wasn’t until teh bossrun gauntlets in the last update that it became an actual challenge with a chance of failure.

Get DBM… it makes it so much easier. Without it the fight isn’t that well designed.

And no get a Ret paladin :stuck_out_tongue:

“zek will have to wait, bro neds the ansurek and council trinkets”

“No it hasnt, at least not for everybody, and especially not for those who´s footsteps everyone believes themselve qualified to follow in while screaming for more rewards.”

Afraid it is any aspect is reward based… Questing rewarded XP and gear… Dungeons Gear… World quests items/currency/rep… There is nothing in game that offers no reward. Teir 11 delves no death offers achievement. Killing Zekvir gives a mount with the Meta achievements…

“That´s the thing, it´s not like they can´t make an reasonable infinite scaling system”

The Ilvl is already bloated again and damage numbers are past a million with another squish inc… Having Diablo system would not work in WoW… D4 has worst gearing that WoW…