Stop the Spawn/Ship camping already, 100% BS

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This is NOT vanilla spirit and in NO WAY happened in the original vanila.

What you see here, is PURELY abuse of mechanics that simply wasn’t known back then but is known now but childish “horde” who refuse to grow up and play like I better not say here.

You literally destroy the entire experience for alliance in all server, this is IMPOSSIBLE, almost all server have insane majority of Horde, and those greedy pigs won’t have enough to kill once, they have to ABUSE the hell out of the broken system to the unending level!

They literally took it to the INSANE SCALE!

What makes it even more retarded, is that Darkshore/Theramore GY’s are SO EXTREMELY FAR you can’t even make it in time back to your corpse unless you RS or died exactly as soon as the ship landed, which horde avoid on purpose and delay you.

Which FORCE you for a trip back and auto res, only to die again.

Shame on you blizzard for even letting it happen this long, just look at what happened to Flamelash because of it, and now Earthshaker is flooded by a mass exodus of 27 guilds moving in 1 night.

No one to blame but you.

No, WSG won’t solve it, it’s the mentality of the horde player to do it, it won’t stop till you make it IMPOSSIBLE for them to do it at this scale.

Simply, put Elite guards similar to those in HORDE zeppelins and booty bay/ratchet at ally harbors, with high damage and hell annoying endless knockbacks.

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It was like that on private server.

It’s exactly the same in Classic.

Vanilla experience can not be reproduce at the scale of 2019 : we have all knowledge, accessible information, stream, video, chat external to the game, better internet connection and computer, that permit information to be shared 1000x faster than before.

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If you don’t like it, play retail.

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Private servers are not indication, it’s the same story as this.

That’s why you need to TWEAK STUFF in order to make it as close as possible to what the original was.

This is faaaarrrrr from close, this is the reason why 90% of ally thinking about quitting.

That abusive camping is just childish and is not WoW, even private servers banned people who abused FP/Ship camping, because guess what, its break down and the game and is stupid.

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Well yes but, you don’t want everyone doing that , classic might die down more and more…

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Contrary of what you mentioned, no bg’s from the get go of ranking system, is one of the roots of this and other issues, specially when Blizzard should perfectly be aware that tryhards from private servers and players addicted to streamers would dominate many servers panorama.
This type of players aren’t here because they have nostalgia of vanilla, or because they liked it so much that they want to experience it at least one more time, they are playing to be better than they were in nostalrius or other pservers, or to be pretender godlikes like their favorite streamers and spend entire days just ganking without any honour, in the same spot, that is probably boring af, just to reach the metas described above is just one of the results of it.

On top of it, we are presented with a lot of overcrowded servers, that have nothing to do with vanilla reality, where people have to spread all around and camp spots like these to get ahead of the curve regarding hk’s.

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Say it to Flamelash.
No more ally, server is “pvp wise”, dead.

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Why do people say this? If you love a game that is run on having people play it, why tell them to play something else? Kind of silly if you ask me.

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Blizzard must make a statement, just waiting for 10th and hoping all will be solved by itself isn’t enough, for me at least and I am sure I am not alone.

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You are delusional thinking that only horde do that… I’m from ZT dominated by allies and our zep are camped by your brothers. Baited by a gnome female, then they log in and kill all greened tag…
First time in WoW i was forced to blue tag then /spit on the face off all these morrons, all the travel, rinse a repeat…
And strangely, maybe they get a little ashamed but they were not here the day after… (It’s a dream, I don’t think these bad people stop to do something like that… They have just found another exploit somewhere else…)

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Ohhh they did it once, the funny part is, YOU CAN AVOID IT, WE CANNOT!

That’s a major difference, 1 day as ally and you would go insane.

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Relentless camping, welcome the min/max’d private server community

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A server don’t just die 1 day because someone baited, once baited, second time you won’t here we simply have NO CHOICE, we have to be farmed like sheeps, we can’t even resurrect in time.

This is mentality.

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it is money for BLZ

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Yeah private server community ruining classic with their toxicity, who would have guessed it.

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Yeah BFA players ruined classic with their constant whining. who would gave guessed it.

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You will never force people to play like 15 years ago. We know the market so some make 20k gold in the first 2 months or less. We have perfect knowledge of quests, raids, dungeons, gear and how to gear so we level up quicker, we gear up quicker and gain power quicker thus simple in modern times vanilla raids fall quickly. Back then there was no knowledge, experience, social networks like today. The game also was in patch by patch development which also played a role vs 1.12 with content progression.

Definex toxicity. Are ally rogues camping lowbies in GromGol toxic? If people in retail farm lowbies in TBC Thrallmar for an achievement are they toxic? If no-life players play the game for the most of the day 7 days a week and kill whoever they find, organize and kill are they “toxic”?

People will do whatever possible that gives them benefits or is fun. If the game allows fly point camping then it will be camped. If a world boss can be kited to a capital it will be. That’s how “no fun detected” was born in WoW. People will do stupid things the game allows them to.

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Let’s wait for BG’s to come out and see how the situation evolves. Only like 1 day left basically

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It is, because private server was World Of Warcraft Vanilla recreated at the scale of modern era, exactly like Classic is. If you say private server is not an indication and think Vanilla is the single source of truth, you are blind, because Vanilla was release in 2004, while private server is here from 2006 to 2019.

So lot of thing that happened on private server is translated to Classic, like the good spot for WPvP (Searing Gorge → Kargath tunnel, BRM with raid and dungeons entrance to summon player, Menethil boat).

If you have a problem with World PvP, it’s because you have a lack of knowledge or skill, because anyone that played private server as Alliance know they have to carry an Invi pot to take the Menethil boat if they are solo.

Same for Horde, every Horde private server player know they have to take the fly to go Thorium Point and don’t run into Kargath → Searing Gorge tunnel with their mount.

That’s why you need to TWEAK STUFF in order to make it as close as possible to what the original was.

#NoChanges

This is faaaarrrrr from close, this is the reason why 90% of ally thinking about quitting.

This is false, it’s only in your imagination. Maybe some player quit, but you don’t have any statistic about that, and your imagination think everyone quit, when it’s only a fraction of player that never played on any private server before and was not aware of how this game can make you really mad when you die over and over because you play solo. This is an hardcore PvP game, and by Hardcore, i don’t mean “Hard”, I mean Hardcore.

That’s why Blizzard have made PvE server, for people that can’t handle this. But of course, lot of player think they can handle, when they can’t, and after they start to understand the reality (they can’t handle it), they complain and say 90% of their faction will leave the game and they loose all fight because of faction imbalance. It’s human to always find something to say “Ah ! It’s that ! It’s not me !”. Only Flamelash is a dead server actually, and it is because Blizzard opened migration.

Also, when you see all theses stupid website like IronforgePro, that use Warcraftlogs and say there’s 25/75 ratio with 3k data sampling on server X, and lot of people think it’s true, they are just dumb guy with 0 common sense and don’t know anything about statistics in math.

That abusive camping is just childish and is not WoW, even private servers banned people who abused FP/Ship camping, because guess what, its break down and the game and is stupid.

Your imagination … again. Never heard of that in Kronos/Northdale/Nostalrius/Retrowow :wink: .

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If you do not wish to engage in regular PvP combat in Classic, select a Player versus Environment (PvE) realm.

PvE realms offer a limited and structured environment for PvP encounters. Players on PvE realms can actively choose when they wish to engage in PvP combat by enabling or disabling their PvP flag at will.

The following actions may be considered dishonorable but are considered legitimate PvP tactics and will not be addressed by our Game Master staff:

  • Corpse camping.
  • Tricking players into getting flagged for PvP (i.e. jumping in the middle of another player’s area effect spell).
  • Killing players well below your level.
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