Stopping Scourge without a LK?

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Hey, i was wondering how are we gonna stop the Scourge without a Lich King wearing the Helm of Domination?
If i recall, the Scourge is supposed to be unstoppable and uncontrollable without a Lich King. Did something change about this or are we gonna decide that it’s pointless to fight them and just leave to Shadowlands?

If that’s the case, that could open some doors to the Scourge going on an even more extreme rampage on Azeroth and we would be hated by our factions once we get back to Azeroth after we are done in Shadowlands.

This could put a reset to our “champion, savior of this, savior of that” titles and make us outcasts, living in the deserts, forests until we get our reputation back.

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!SPOILER!

Well, the point of the prepatch is killing them all and destroying the Cult of the Damned yet again. I think we will just stop them in the prepatch.

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Meh, i guess that works but would be impossible lorewise, no? I mean if we just leave one scourge alive on entire Azeroth, it’s just gonna kill one villager somewhere and more and more will rise and rampage without a LK. Not sure if im right tho, i always thought the scourge is way stronger when there is no LK.

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Random ghouls cannot res anyone. It takes a necromancer, lich or dk to raise someone as undead. Yes, it’s kinda stupid that all of a sudden the Scourge isnt a great threat, uncontrollable by the helm, which was why Bolvar put it on. But, whatever.

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Yeah, true. I also wonder if we or the people in Oribos are gonna rebuild the Helm of Domination and make someone wear it. Taelia maybe? Would be a neat way to have our first Lich Queen, Bolvar’s daughter continuing the family’s legacy

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I actually loved seeing Bolvar lich king on the SL trailer, but if we can get rid of that annoying sh*t Taelia (because she is just a really annoying char imo) then why not, let her wear the Helm.

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honestly, i think it would be a lot better way to have the first Lich Queen than Sylvanas.

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Yeah, who said anything about Sylvanas? Sylvanas is that OP cartoon villain who just woke up with the will to destroy everything, I really hope she dies in SL

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Duct-tape it to the Champions Head and hope for the best.

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We handled the legion, N’Zoth, deathwing, Azshara.

At the time lore wise our characters were no where near as strong as they are now and the scourge would have seemed like a huge threat.

When blizz wrote the lore for the scourge, it’s obvious they didn’t expect the power level raise before we would finally handle it. We’ve dealt with worse threats.

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We have to find a cure for the plague and then wipe the scourge out.

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i wonder if u take the pieces of the crown to the dude who makes our legendaries

he could put it back togehter :open_mouth:

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There is a cure already. The forsaken invented it.

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How are we gonna find a cure for the plague ? Not only the current lich king is a siss* and the helm of control destroyed but to top that said forsaken who actually found something is dead, she made sure he wouldn’t survive and tricked us to kill him and the nathzerim , what are we gonna do now …?

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There was a cure, said forsaken is dead and his knowledge to what i know gone with him … !!! :face_with_symbols_over_mouth:

All i remelber is he required the brain of some of the people under the affliction so we can guess he is using the gland and fluid and nervous system to create an antidote.

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I was actually referring to the new plague :slight_smile:

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My mistake , still … what can we do ? except killing countless armies of lower undead of course ??? *

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Well, yes, I think The W.H.O are still working on that one, Oh, you mean -in Game-! Gotcha.

Basically what someone above said, lorewise it needs specific types of people to raise undead, its not quite the same as a Zompoc where being bitten by a ghoul would turn you, but needs certain types of Necromancy to make it happen.

Logically, I can see where Blizzard were going with the whole “There has to be a Jailor of the Damned” motif (a term that has become strangely ironic given the new expansion’s bad guy’s name) in that only the Lich King can keep the Scourge in check, and I can see what they were going for, I really can, but I don’t think they thought it through properly.

Y’see, if there was no Lich King/Queen/Duke/Satrap/Panjandram/whatever, so no Helm of Domination, what would you have?

The Scourge would basically just be a big Zombie army with no leader. There wouldn’t even be a lure for people like the Cult of the Damned, because without some sort of central control, there’s no one really to make a deal with, or at least go “We’ll work for you dread lord as long as we are spared”, so really this whole idea of “Without the Lich King they would be even more dangerous” is just rubbish.

The Scourge would be -more- dangerous if someone wasn’t actually using tactics, commanding them, had aims, and could recruit quislings from the other side instead of just being a mindless slavering Zombie army?

Lets look at what the Scourge would have accomplished without a Lich King.

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Yeah.

Thats it.
Because there wouldn’t -be- one.
Undead simply did not exist in that way.

But lets be charitable, and say that somehow for some reason, without a Lich King, there was a Zombie Apocalypse in Lordaeron. Sad times,
For Lordaeron. Everyone else would be fine, they wouldn’t get through Ban’dinoriel as the Treacherous Dark’han Drathir is not likely to try and betray his people to an enemy whose basic thought processes are “Duuuuuuh…Brainz” So the High Elves would be fine, and wouldn’t even need to rename themselves to remember the fallen, as there would not be any fallen to remember.

The Dwarves would just go “Well this sucks, but thats fine, we’ll just blow up the Thandol Span and sit here with our excellent Mountaineer snipers and take pot shots at the Undead’s heads, whilst over on the other side the Thalassian Farstriders will be putting arrows in their heads, It’s like a shooting game”

Its nonsense, the Scourge is far more dangerous when there -IS- a Lich King…

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Same way as before, I imagine. They take his research and extrapolate. It’ll take a while, though. We’ll be up in the sky having fun whilst they deal with that.

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Never looked forward to plagues as much as this one…

Give me death already, seems like the golden ticket out of Beta for Azeroth