Struggling to enjoy the game solo

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I am currently just about to get KSM on my warrior but the realisation is starting to hit that doing that is completely pointless since I play alone and wont be able to push higher than +15 and I also dont raid or pvp so getting good gear is also off the table

Have tried to join guilds before but having social anxiety and just being bad around people in general has made it hard to connect to anyone in the guild and raiding has turned into a tense situation where I am super self concious and afraid of making misstakes (has even gquit in the middle of a raid in bfa after wiping the raid to a mechanic I screwed up and didnt join another guild for the rest of the xpac)

It just feels like unless I join a guild or pay for boosts nothing I can do as a solo player matters in the end, Iā€™ve already leveled up every class in the game just to give me something to do. Playing an off meta spec doesnt help in terms of puggin either.

Anyone else that has been in a similar situation?

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Sounds like you should play single player games.

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Give you a hint its in the name MMORPGā€¦ of you canā€™t handle wiping god knows how you play m+ā€¦

Raid wiping as a tank is kinda impossible you have like 4 healers spamming you and press taunt every now and thenā€¦ its the easiest role in the gameā€¦ why do you think most gms play tank.

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Single player games bore me to tears, there is nothing satisfying about progressing in a game where youre all alone.

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Well my question is what do you want then?

You want to enjoy game solo, but wow is a trash solo game experience, but you donā€™t want to play actual single player games because you want to play with people, but you donā€™t want to play with people because you have anxiety

Tbf I donā€™t know what kind of answer do you even expect? Make up your mind about how you want to play this game.

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well its not pointless because you will get mount for it which looks pretty nice.

i assumed thats the main reason why people push KSM in first place because all your gear will be completly replaced in +/- 4 months anyway

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There is a real nice community on horde Zen Horde nice and friendly might be worth a look for you .

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It shouldnā€™t be pointless even if you are playing mostly solo. Either do it for fun/entertainment or because you set a goal.

Nothing pointless about that.

As to the social part, I can relate to that but not as extreme. Iā€™m just an introvert that is socially awkward. Yes I hate my mistakes but I wouldnā€™t quit because of it. But my way of playing wouldnā€™t fit yours most likely.

WoW doesnā€™t matter at all depending on the angle you view it from. But as long as you get enjoyment from what you do or fulfilment of achieving goals you setā€¦ its not entirely pointless.

Try to not do the things you donā€™t like (that will be hard enough).

As to ā€˜fixingā€™ the guild issue: you can always try out some communities. Thereā€™s a few ā€˜chillā€™ ones out there that donā€™t care too much about your skills or meta.

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I feel you,there is not lot to do,Iā€™m sitting with dungeons at 14,getting into 15 pug as a rogue is a miracle,bad pugs break my key -2-3 lvl,pvp is boring nothing to work toward

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Set your own goals itā€™s never pointless. It also doesnā€™t matter if you donā€™t reach them but itā€™s nice to try.

Raiding is always easier in a guild but it can take time to find the right guild. Somewhere that doesnā€™t put too much pressure on you. Some people thrive under pressure and others find it makes them play worse.

There are key communities which offer a better experience than just pugging.

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I went 9/10 heroic without a guild so far. Only through PuG. Granted, Iā€™ve actually had a few decent ones (where people wouldnā€™t leave after 1 wipe). Itā€™s defnitely possible. Mythic raiding I imagine is an entire different story at the later stages (think shriekwing is still doable without discord and voice communication since apart from catching the anima laterns itā€™s identical in terms of mechanics with heroic)

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Iā€™m in pretty much the same situation (except itā€™s not KSM but wanting to do 19/20s and also I have a poopoo spec past 20s), joined and left two guilds in a month at the start of the expansion and Iā€™ve been playing solo ever since. Currently Iā€™m part of a french boosting community so I play with the same people pretty often and still Iā€™m unable to have proper conversations that are more than two sentences and I really feel it when I have to make calls but for some reason I just canā€™t speak.

The solution that has somewhat worked for me so far is playing on multiple characters at once to not get bored, almost done doing KSM on my second alt.

In your case you should be able to push past 15 no problem, itā€™s just gonna take a while to find pugs to do it with and for the gear be patient with the weekly vault, youā€™ll get there eventually.

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Iā€™ll take you in any day friend. Robin#25808
I want you to make tons of mistakes, and have fun, we all made them at some point, and still do. I encourage you to fail, and learn.

Hit me up anyday.

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You seem to still do m+ pugs though? Well, I know people who pug +20 keys, though thatā€™s because they grind the game a lot and play well. So itā€™s not like +15 is going to be your hard limit even when pugging unless you decide that it is.

But yes, youā€™re more limited in what youā€™ll be able to do if you just want to be solo. WoW is not a solo game, though you can play it like that as well (but youā€™ll hit limitations at some point obviously, like you seem to have here).

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Thing is I dont have a problem with pug groups or queueing into a game of league of legends or similar multiplayer games but when you raid with a guild you are in that awkward spot where they are people you will consistantly play with but dont really know and most of them already know each other and youre sorta left on the sidelines, which is also why I absolutely hate to play with friends of friends especially if I am not confident I can perform. I hate being that person they write to my friend about later like ā€œwhy do you play with that dude, he sucks.ā€

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Edit: Sorry, this turned out a bit long. But I feel for your dilemma, itā€™s near to my heart. c:

This may sound crazy, but have you tried joining guilds that are newly established? They tend to have fewer people who already know each other.

Thereā€™s also something to be said about sticking with it even if you donā€™t fit like a glove right away. Any guild worth a damn will expect you to fail at first. Ours for example takes in what people would call ā€œnoobsā€; those whoā€™ve never raided before. We know they havenā€™t, so of course we donā€™t talk bad about them when they mess up mechanics and such.
In the same vein, any guild worth their salt will also know that new players need to be integrated into the group just like in any social setting - it doesnā€™t happen on its own or overnight. If a guild expects you to just fit in automatically without any help, theyā€™re in the wrong not you. They have the numbers advantage, they should be helping you settle in.

I get it. Iā€™m actually very anxious too. Iā€™ve played WoW for so long that itā€™s like a second home to me, and thatā€™s the only reason I feel less anxious around its players. Thereā€™s a certain ebb and flow to guilds - even the ones that seem like the ā€œglueā€ of the guild eventually take a long break and yet it might not even have an effect, because someone else will take their place.
Give the guilds a longer try, and make a small effort to get to know the people in it. If itā€™s hard and no one talks to you or tries to take you with them, donā€™t waste your time and move on. If they reciprocate, give it time! Youā€™re bound to make mistakes, everyone does. But in a good guild that treats each other with respect, theyā€™ll just tell you and then everyone moves on, wiser and more closely knit.

Finally, about that mistake that wiped the raidā€¦ those happen. Everyone should have the right to make those mistakes while learning the fights. Weā€™re stuck on heroic Denathrius. Weā€™ve wiped so, so so many times due to dps failures, because the first phase is only really hard on dps and healers. Tank difficulty comes in phases two and three. Lo and behold, the first time we hit phase 2, tanks immediately made a mistake and wiped the raid. Weā€™d been stuck on P1 for so long, youā€™d think everyone would be fuming at the tank who was understandably mortifiedā€¦ but no. Of course not! We all understand that tanks and healers have every right to make mistakes. Nobody thought much of it, in fact it was joked about because it just shows that nobody is perfect, not even tanks! :laughing:

Chin up, friend. Anxiety sucks really bad, but this is actually a great game at combating it and helping us overcome some of our social anxiety. I used to be so anxious I couldnā€™t queue for a random heroic! Now I frequently lead normal Nathria pugs like itā€™s no big deal :'D

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I am in the same boat, kind of. I have Autism (yes its a real thing) So I need to understand that doing stresfull stuff is going to freak me out, so I stopped raiding and doing high keys. So I understand where youā€™re coming from. But by understanding my limits it also helps me to overcome them. One thing I do is to run M+ but at a level am oki with and slowly build my gear up that way it also alows me to build up my confedance, at the moment doing 1 +10 a week will net you a 220 item. So I set myself the goal of 1 +10 a week if I want to do more I can if not its no worries.

Joining a guild can be stressful bleave me I know, the way to beat social anxiety is to start small, when you do a heroic dungon say hello to people, donā€™t go crazy and tell them your life story but be polite and say ty for the run at the end, doing world quests? look out for people doing the same quest and help them out party up, if you get refused donā€™t dwell on it move on and do the next quest.

I have met some really cool people playing wow over the years, some I no longer talk to but some I still stay in contact with, even just saying to a healer, ā€œhey man I play a healer good job back thereā€ can make you a mate to do other things with.

The best advise I can give you. Its never as bad as it in your head, the world wont end if you do or say something dumb trust me I know. Remember your a human and your going to make mistakes donā€™t be hard on yourself. be your self people can spot fakers a mile away people will like you or they wonā€™t and thats ok, be yourself and be happy playing a game you enjoy.

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It used to be a little bit easier cause I had a friend who I played together with and did alot of m+ as well as a little raiding so even if everyone else knew each other at least I still had someone I knew and that just made feeling at ease easier.

Sadly they are not around anymore and playing the game completely solo is a new and sorta crap experience so far honestly.

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Zen Horde and Calm Keys are really good fun places . Zen is more relaxed and not a ā€œpushā€ community but there are real good people you can chat to if its company you want .It is set up for players like us who have anxiety and want good people to be around .

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There are lots of player who are struggling in one way or another.

Take me for example. Itā€™s been almost 4 months since i decided to subscribe after 11 years. None of my past friends is playing, basically iā€™m all alone. If You look up my profile Youā€™ll see that every piece od gear is either from ah or unranked pvp. Iā€™ve done no raids, 2 normal dungeons and one heroic. It was a lot easier with a bunch of good friends, some of them are or were even my neighbours.

Iā€™m struggling with every social activity that requires some form of cooperation. Every time i want to do heroics it feels like a first day in a new job. Thereā€™s even more pressure because i chose to be a tank.

Find likeminded people, or better, start a guild, write bunch of rules which will reflect Your vision. Best of luck!