Super Toxic WoW Community

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So, no matter if you play Horde or Alliance, I think we are all in this WoW Classic community but the resent changes to PvP makes me sick.

AV Queues are changed cause people did organise to make “premate” AVs. Ok I can understand if AV should be a non premate BG but what is the result?
Horde (except russians) play like dickheads. Make games unnessessary long, abuse all backdoor of alliance base and even abuse wall bug on Van to kite him. If you go in as an Alliance player to solo farm hornor, you have like 1.5k HPH right now, just because Horde can’t make AVs like russians so ALL people of our community can enjoy playing AV.
And what happens from there? People cry about premates the meet on AB and WS. Well what did you expect to happen when you change AV this way? As an Alliance Player you have NO CHANCE to get Hornor if you don’t go play AB/WS and sure if you HAVE TO GO there, you will meet up with others that are sick of your toxic AV playstyle and go for payback time.

So for me when I solo farm AB/WS on Horde, I meet like 90% premate Alliance groups, where you can basicly sit on GY and get farmed. But AVs are no option because queue time is super long and guess what. They will be longer from day to day because Horde keeps playing like selfish toxic crybabies, that wanted a change on AV and now keeps abusing mapglitches and mapstyle, really awesome guys, you create a proud community…

The next thing is this stupid trashtalk on BGs at raidchannel, and an upcoming “hate” on melee classes, exspecially on warriors. And I can understand that in a certain way. I mean if you are on WS and have 9 melees (7 warriors), you don’t even need play play vs a team with 2 mages. The game mechanic just not working that way.
So here is where BLIZZARDs part is and cap on classas that can join a BG, if it is no premate. If a premate wants to go with 70% of one class, let them do so but improve that solo queue.

So if nothing changes, things will get worse for everyone. Queue times for Horde on AV will get higher and higher because Alliance will just not queue anymore so you will have a even higher rate of premates on AB/WS on Alliance side. This will make solo player on Horde side not queue on AB/WS or just teamup themselfs what will make solo players completly stop playing any BGs at all.

I saw things happen on other servers and there are only two options, that can make things better:

  1. Blizzard takes another turn on AV and improves it so it is a fair BG again.
  2. Horde does play like russians on AV and not like dicks.

All these discussions of premates and unfair AVs came up after the change of AV queue system. So Blizzard actually made things worse than better. This stupid 5man AV doesn’t change anything.

So let’s keep a good spirit on this community and don’t let it fall of like on other games. Even we play against each other we can do it with more respect and can tell Blizzard that they should do good changes and not cry all the time for our own favour like on most of the other topics about AV and premate groups.
Learn from those russian AVs, they are always doing a strat where both can enjoy playing AV and dont need premates.
And Blizzard: Make some changes that work for all people, not just fix AV queues and start a bigger problem you did solve with.

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There’s already around 50,000 posts complaining about premades, yet you made a new one.

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Your comment just tells everyone that you didnt read OPs post.
So hush hush, go away if you dont have to contribute something of value.

The problem OP mentioned is that blizzards AV fix just killed PvP in long terms - congrats you dont have any AV premades anymore but the chance facing premades in av/wsg is now 90% instead of 60-70%.
What is the queue time for AV at this time on horde side?

Btw. facing premades is the same amount on alliance side - and all the safespotting, graveyard jumps and tunnel entrance jumps are just boring as f*ck.

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Let me sum this up real fast and make a tldr…

“I am an alliance player posting on my horde alt to make it look like I’m really a horde player
I am angry that I have to face premades when I refuse to join one. I want blizzard to change back to when alliance exploited ques to make it so i could premade AV without having to actually pvp. So I can play in a Premade vs pugs and stomp to farm my honor as I semi afk to rank up, without realizing the irony of my statements”

This is exactly how your post reads, and it’s just one of the many many many many ones that have gone before it. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe you do have a lvl 60 horde… but it doesn’t read like you do.

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maybe its just you and your ego assuming stuff you have no clue
who does such a dramatization of some straightforward text ? you my friend, should be in the theathers

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Really? Theatre? That’s backhanded high praise in deed.
However you’ll forgive me for asking how a player crying asking blizzard to revert a change they brought about to end people exploiting can be seen as an altruist request. In fact it’s a straight up selfish, egotistical, I’m more important than you request. Because shock horror blizzard are the impartial bystanders here, also correct me if I’m wrong but he referred to an entire player base as dicks because they’re not playing the way he wants them too… so, remind me again who has the ego and self important attitude here? He can shut up or join a proper premade like we had to back in vanilla where you had to work as a team, if he doesn’t like it, and he prefers to play Rambo style I suggest he tries a different game.

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And it’s weekend again.

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Long post. Sorry.
Exploits are bad and it is lame to use them.
If I have to play for 5 hours to win the game, I don’t give a fu…k if that annoys people. Both my Horde teammates and opponents. Never give up.
Edit: same Horde players that prefer to lose quickly than win a long game, are defending AV premades exploit. No matter how long the queue will be for us, it is better than losing in 7 min vs a premade. These people shouldn’t get HONOR points. Just points.

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Zzzz zzzz zzz i dont care cryer

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And again people don’t read the whole topic but prove with their reactions that they only think about themselfs and try to defend their behaviour.

You just don’t see the whole thing where things are going right now. As long as you win, all seems fine, doesnt matter if it is Horde AV or Ally AB/WS.
But you will see people stop queueing because of this crap and where do you want to pvp then? You don’t have arenas where you can fight against your own fraction. it will be quiet at BGs because just 1 side will queue, rest wont.

And I am not saying take back the patch on AV, tell me where I said it, I said it is ok. I am just saying the problem we have right now is based on that patch. And in my oppinion, pressing “queue” at the same time is a way less glitch then be able to backdoor a base or do you wall jumps on Van.
It is just based on the unbalance between Horde and Alliance so that Alliance was able to get put into 1 group.

I am saying we need MORE changes so ALL people at this community do have a good experience in playing BGs.

And to say “premate” av is a glitch and then say get a premate like old days far off because you dont want av premates and now tell people to look for a premate. No sense there.

In one thing, people are right. There are millions of posts compaining and still there is nothing that is done to give all people a good experience of playing BGs. It is not about winning a game, it is about having fun in a game and if you get completly dominated, there is no fun. You will see once Corona is over how queue times on AV will be. It will be sad waiting and hard premates on other BGs.

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You typed all that and I didn’t read past the first 2 sentences

Because what you said was “I am a dick”

PvP is what it is - if you don’t like it don’t participate

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Again - 10 words in you could see where it was going

“I don’t like it so it must change”

Again - just don’t bother - it isn’t compulsory

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AV is still crap.
People are getting more rude. Maybe due to lack of movement in times of corona but i don’t think it will get better. Trust my words, AV is going down and solo rankers gonna die out of the game.

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