Baine and Thrall are traitors who made peace with the Alliance. They deserve to be executed in public by being burned alive on pyres. To hell with them all.
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HAHHAHAHAHAHA nice!
I LOVE IT 
Sylvanas deserves a Redemption and I’m glad they are going this path.
And wgat makes me even more happy are all those salty comments here and on reddit.
YUMMY!
Thanks you Steven! You did a great job and don’t listen to those loser haters hahahahaha
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Maybe we get another trial, like it was with Garrosh.
Did you hit on the head when you were little or are you being (badly) sarcastic?
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We can’t have a trial. We ran out of bronze dragons.
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Something often forgotten about Sylvanas: Afrasiabii was in direct control of her writing since 2006. So… yeah…
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/oqgoyg/afrasiabi_personally_decided_sylvannas_action/
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It was still diluted by Metzens reins up until the moment he definitely left the team and instead started giving token support out of his own volition (mid Legion).
I don’t know how much it affected the development of the character, but if Afrasiabi was to gain control over the character, he would’ve only have done so over the course of the late patches in Legion and some of BfA (until Danuser took over mid expansion or so).
Don’t know how much of this whole nastiness had direct repercussions on the story though.
I would guess so, but Metzen himself also told how ruff it was at times to work with some of the team and he was often overruled according to himself and he clashed with Afrasiabi on the topic of Syvlanas. Of course it’s all from his perspective, so take it for what that’s worth.
Perhaps, but this was Afrasiabi himself claiming so. I can’t say more really, but it shows it wasn’t simply that one guy everyone likes to attack over Sylvanas.
Yeah hard to say.
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So Sylvanas got her soul back?
1- she turn into elf again & lead the elf’s? fu blizz
2- she join the alliance? fu blizz
3- she stay as rotten but with soul?? fu blizz
4- she suicide for a test & then lose her soul again? xD fu blizz
5- she simply back to undercity as if nothing happen & try to help the undead npc’s?
maybe she will just replace the arbiter & guide dead souls!!!
whatever will happen i guess it’s Fu Blizz, you really failed both Sylvanas fans & haters.
Sylvanas was made in BFA to look as villain at max, till Legion she never bypass the border. May be some decisions are on the edge, but stay gray.
Plot twist will be, promised, but never happen on her story by now, the redemption from this angle, that looks impossible. Writers drag players into bad train as much as they can 
For me there is two moments, that shows Sylvanas still have good part in her. Anduin, first show us that, in their conversation, about her choice, that never had.
And don’t forget Ellune. On the moment of revenge for Tyrande, Ellune saves booth, because of anger Tyrande is blind to feel, understand and look in Sylvanas soul, but ellune is not.
This are two hints for me. I expect Sylvanas to free Anduin on the future story, not Jaina 
Note the moment, when controlled by Jailer Anduin shows in front of Jailer, Sylvanas look at him, as he don’t deserve this and she pity for him.
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There is an infinite pirate one. Just need some paint.
I am not quite sure about that. I can’t say about Cataclysm, but when it comes to the MoP story line, there is an interview from D. Kosak on topic of story telling.
WoW Insider interviews Lead Quest Designer Dave Kosak (engadget)
And originally we were too subtle with that, it really wasn’t coming across in the intro. It was a slow build, and you’d eventually discover all this stuff.
A lot of people weren’t quite catching on. It didn’t feel like this cool epic beginning to the expansion. And we went back to the drawing board, and I’m really glad we did. Because once we decided “Hey, let’s just have this story be huge, right from the get go,” that was such the right decision to make. When you play through the beginning of those zones now, there’s no question about a war. There’s no question that there’s a culture clash happening here. There’s no question what the sha is, and that we’re going to cause all kinds of trouble.
Which does fit the recent comment from Metzen, about the only prior to the ones related to the current story, which referenced the narrative of WoW:
some extra context:
https://twitter.com/BookwormElf/status/1408823610874241028
https://twitter.com/BellularGaming/status/1408826619205148677
https://twitter.com/Wonton_/status/1408829316549386243
So, how much of his original idea was kept, and how much was it twisted? I have no idea to be honest. The only context for that time I have is from wow magazine about how little time the team spent on the story. And that Metzen was not in the WoW team, at least not on the picture:
gl hf
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Sylvanas had zero presence in MoP.
The point was that Afrasiabi didn’t have full control of her character, as an active narrative asset, until BfA.
Unless the blizz representatives lie, that’s not how their stories work.
Another thing that’s true of Blizzard is that while a single author or team of authors often drives the overall vision for a story, no one person owns or controls the final product. It’s a highly collaborative process that brings together a talented, diverse group of people across different disciplines who are all passionate about creating polished, high-quality experiences and delivering for our players.
© https://activisionblizzard.com/newsroom/2021/06/building-inclusive-game-worlds
So, here you have it. Design by committee at its finest.
gl hf
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That’s…the same thing i said. I’m really not getting your point.
Are you agreeing with me then, that Afrasiabi didn’t have full control over Sylvanas character, at least until Metzen left?
What I meant to say is that supposedly no one person ever supposed to have full control.
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So Elune allowed Sylvanas to burn Teldrassil.
Elune stoped Tyrande from killing Sylvanas.
So Elune helping Sylvanas …
But why is she helping her ?
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Elune seems to have a compassionate side to her.
Sylvanas is someone who suffers. Her hatred is a guise for immense personal suffering.
When confronted with her, Elune sees something good within Sylvanas. Hope.
And as we know from the end of Sanctum of Domination, then Sylvanas does seem to find her way out of the darkness. She ends up being our hope if we are to stop The Jailer.
I think Blizzard plays a lot on the symbolism, especially with Sylvanas. She’s gone down a really dark path, but certain characters seem to hold out hope for her. The hope that Sylvanas has tried so hard since Teldrassil to kill.
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Okay, let’s try for the better case again.
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Elune had no means to prevent Teldrassil, either because she didn’t know it would happen, her powers were needed elsewhere, or she just didn’t have the necessary kind of power.
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To make lemonade out of dead Night Elves she helped them pass beyond the veil, where she thought all, or at least most, would end up in Ardenweald.
2.1. To do that, she probably prevented the dead elves from becoming whisps. Since becoming a whisp is seen as something positive by the nelves, this isn’t a good thing, but arguably being a spirit animal in Ardenweald isn’t really worse. Except that whisps can be called upon to actively defend their homeland and descendants, and the denizens of Ardenweald presumably can’t/won’t. -
She granted the Night Warrior the power she wanted for revenge… but does actually want her to use said power in a more productive way, so she tried to prevent her von destroying herself on the business of revenge. Tyrande’s power might be needed to regrow Teldrassil, or something like that.
3.1 Elune seems to talk about leaving the choice between revenge and renewal to Tyrande, but considering she directly interfered with her ability to avenge her people at one specific time, that seems a bit vague. Maybe she knows that the revenge-part will work out either way without Tyrande destroying herself? I don’t know, that’s the best I can do to make sense of this one.
So… I guess in that case the burning of Teldrassil is all about Sylvanas’ arc and the Shadowlands, and was never really meant to be much of a Night Elf plot at all.
The Night Warrior story is the Night Elf story that came out of it, and it’s meant to be about coping with the loss and renewing things, so like predicted years before, there will very likely be some new tree. It’s not a story about revenge, but one about overcoming revenge. Like all modern WoW stories are. And Elune, their godess, is pushing for the same idea of morality.
I think Blizzard might once again have underestimated players’ hunger for retribution here. Or the effectivity of their story-telling. The Teldrassil rescue quest was probably the most hard-hitting quest WoW ever had, and I say that as an avowed elf-hater. It would just be too fitting if the one time they really struck the right emotional core was an unwanted accident by Blizz…
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They’ve become extremely good in that particular aspect.
See Worgen about Gilneas, Blood elves and Zandalari regarding Jaina, Goblins regarding the SI:7,….
We’ve been blue balled non-stop for several years already because of this weird notion that you can’t have Justice with Vengeance.
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