Again, it doesn’t matter what she says, it matters what she does.
Baine and the Tauren are surrounded by Alliance yet never used distasteful methods to further their goals.
Baine is a good comparison in this regard because he is no innocent. He left the Alliance forces to die on Broken Shore as well, he helped Sylvanas torch Teldrassil. Yet he never succumbed to the depths she did. We do not treat him as an evil character, because it’s believable that he fights for honor and survival. Same goes for Saurfang.
Sylvanas was established as a sociopathic backstabber, a self-proclaimed monster. Then as time goes by, we get excuses. But excuses coming from such a character are just that, excuses.
To compare her with Jaina is unfair. Yes, Jaina went from innocent little girl to Battlemage who is ready to eradicate armies. That’s not exactly a morally good deed either.
But Jaina was established as a generally genuine, caring individual, and she is shown as such constantly, furthermore she was fair with Baine, even though she is in full “I hate the Horde” mode. You’ll never see such fairness from Sylvanas.
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I know it’s not an entirely fair comparison but I always feel like when people talk about Sylvanas genocidal tendencies they ignore the time Jaina slaughtered innocent Blood Elves in Dalaran. She is of course not at the point of Sylvanas but she was close to it when she planed to flood Orgrimar, something that would have been very comparable to the burning of Darnasus.
Chaotic Good Anti Hero’s do 
You’re wrong. She’s evil.
Perspective has nothing to do with it and if you, as a person, can’t see the obvious then your moral compass is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY out of whack lol.
Absolutely on point and I totally agree with you even though I’m a Sylvanas fan.
She ain’t evil you just hate her. 
hehehe, not at all. I actually think she’s been a badass character throughout the expansions and love watching the animations of her. Actually slightly disappointed at how things have turned out, but not entirely surprised.
Nate… now, him I hate. 
Jaina being like that doesn’t excuse Sylvanas.
Yeah she went to the point that during WoD I had conversations about her becoming a raid boss very soon.
But Jaina, and other characters in general have massive redeeming qualities. She is a compassionate being who suffered a lot, first by Arthas, then her father, then Garrosh, then (although this one is only about pride) Khadgar sacked her from Dalaran.
But despite her hatred for the Horde she treated Baine fairly, something that can’t be said about Sylvanas. Baine explains in front of other leaders why he defied Sylvanas, because she wanted to create a mindless ghoul lacking free will. Which was against her own rule!
Point is, this discussion is not about Jaina. If someone claimed all Jaina ever did was good I would argue them as well.
But Sylvanas has zero redeeming quality. All of her justifications for what she does stand on weak grounds or are outright lies, like the pre-BfA chain where she claims the Alliance wants all-out war, when that is simply not the case.
You need to remember that the Horde is tribal. They value honor and strenght above all else, except for the blood elves and the undead.
When Garrosh was Warchief it was due to his actions in WotLK and because Thrall decided to go complete his Shaman Feats of Strenght. It was not about survival or honor, but simple political succession of a Warchief who left.
Instead of preparing against Deathwing, he increasingly went on the offensive. Vol’jin didn’t like that so he started planning ahead.
This time the very same Warchief made Sylvanas successor with his dying breath, under extreme circumstances. Honor bound (pun intended) the Horde to her.
THEN in the pre-BfA chain she makes them believe the Alliance is out to get them.
And now the veil is slowly falling, Sylvanas is seen for what she is, and we are back to our latest Warchief-sacking scheme.
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Sylvanas is the one character in WoW that has always had fervent fans who will defend anything she does. MMO-Champion is pretty much nightmare fuel because you can’t win an argument against some of those people.
Most people including myself just think she’s badly written now and she’s been going downhill when her original character arc was over after WOTLK.
Case in point this guy. Burning down a tree full of civilians and children just to spite a dying elf in her final moments isn’t evil? It’s made worse by the fact it didn’t even accomplish anything. The Alliance retaliated in full, the Night Elves became vengeful and induced the Night Warrior ritual, and now in the narrative the Horde is pretty much on the losing side.
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Which she did because Saurfang let her down. She burnt the tree because they needed to strike a blow, as it could no longer be Malfurion’s death she imrovised with the tree.
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And why do she do such a stupid thing?
I think it was cunning, I don’t thin it was stupid. I think not letting me kill Saurfang was a mistake though xD
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Bait, so close but no cigar. I don’t think shes a anti-hero by any mean given her goals might aswell be as bad as the Lich King.
Cunning? The Horde lose on every front right now. They will be probably saved by the Azshara plot, not Sylvanas.
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That’s your interpretation. It does not match mine. It was a great move by a Warchief in a time of War.
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Nobody like her methods. She destroy the identity of the Horde too with that.
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You didn’t like her methods, you can’t speak for everyone.
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So do you support such cruel methods of the horde, really?
You support killing women and children… really?
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