T0.5 Huge Missed Opportunity

WoW Classic Season of Discovery
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T0.5 is BiS before MC after the SoD devs went through the effort of rebalancing the stats of this gear. T0.5 was always ignored in ERA as the T0.5 set requires a huge time investment and 450g cost sink to obtain. Unfortunately SoD completely messed up an opportunity with this set.

I’m sure most of you guys like me realise by now with how easy the content is and how much gold T0.5 costs, we will all be skipping this set as the Tier 1 set is cheaper, stronger and easier to obtain. This is incredibly Sad as Tier 0.5 is pretty much already dead and in a few weeks everyone will be running around in Tier 1 Gear.

T0.5 with a reworked questline with all the gold requirements removed would have been one of the smartest changes in the entirety of SoD, especially if Blizzard was serious about bringing people back and fixing some of the issues.

Doing so would have allowed people who skipped previous phases, new players, players Alts and more to come back and do a solo questline to get a strong set of gear and be ready for MC.

The benefits of doing this would have meant players would have been more inclined to come back and new players to start too as this set would be easy to obtain and be strong enough for them the join the endgame with other players who are ahead.

Allowing people to get a strong set of gear quickly and easily was super important for this phase as Raiding requires 20-40 players and bringing people up quickly to a solid level of gear quickly allows for a larger raiding population and a reduction in wait times.

Another benefit would have been that players would have all been closer in terms of gear and stats which would have allowed Blizzard to start balancing quicker and more effectively as it would have shown the specs were pulling ahead or specs thay what were falling behind.

Also T0.5 looks relatively good and it would have been refreshing seeing everyone run around in a new set of gear that was pretty much never used on ERA. It would be a new piece of content for most players and a nice reward for casuals to get thier first set of gear for reaching 60.

As I said, T0.5 has a short shelf life for more Hardcore players to the point that it isn’t even worth farming for most people. Blizzard Devs, you gone through effort and time of creating and reworking a set that nobody will get because the stronger T1 set is easier to obtain and casuals + most people won’t spend 100s of hours gold farming to get it.

This is a big L for the SoD team and I can’t believe you guys didn’t think this through and use this gear as a catch up mechanic. You literally did one of the best changes in all of MMOs and WoW in Catacylsm Classic with the stagering Valor Cap because your team realised the importance of catchup, either for new players or alt characters. This is the same team so I can’t fathom with how hard you Blundered T0.5 so badly…

Does anyone else feel a similar way about this?

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Its dundgeon set, its for people that dont wanna run raids
Its literally how it must be

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Why the hell would you play SoD if you weren’t gonna Raid. Literally the most successful thing about SoD was the 10 man Raids whilst leveling. No amount of Raids in any version of WoW could compare to the amount of Gnomer or BFD Logs in SoD.

Basically 999/1000 people who play SoD Raid. The main selling point in Classic is that the Raids are so easy and have 0 mechanics so anybody can complete them.

So again who is T0.5 for? Why bother wasting development time on content nobody will do. Why not make it catchup gear and easy to obtain so this encourages Alts and people to return to SoD and can get ready to Raids quickly? Nobody who is so casual they can’t Raid is going through a 100HR Questline and spending 500 gold to get this gear. If you are unable to Raid theres no way your gonna be the type of Player who has 500gold or cares about spending it on some gear.

Its a extremely weak and useless point. I wish you didn’t comment and forced me to respond to that dumb statement…

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Pvp? I also dont like running raids, /even though i will help my guild / but spend most of my time world pvping, gold farming etc

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Rank 10 > 14 Gear is stronger than Tier 1 never mind Tier 0.5. What are these comments?

Tier 0.5 is for nobody and thats the point of this post. They should of made everyone get it at 60 so we get a level playing field and PvPers can use it until Rank 10+ Gear and Raiders can use it until they get Tier 1.

All thats happening is nobody will use it and everyone will be Rank 10 Gear or Tier 1 gear before 100 people have this set.

Its really bad decision to lock the set behind that much gold and this could have been one of the main reasons for players who were on the fence, which is probably 50% of the playerbase right now, to come back to play phase 4 a try but they messed this opportunity up badly.

I can tell you if I was behind or starting fresh there is no way I would be spending 500g or putting in the effort it takes to gear than it does right now. This is a seasonal server and they need to start treating it like one. No 1 month grinds for gear as 1 month is probably half of phase 4 already and 500g on gear that gets immediatly replaced is bad design. Its probably stopping a lot more players returning than yous 2 are willing to admit.

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To what end if you ain’t raiding?

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As far as i know the BiS equip for p4 is including 2set bonus from t0.5 for many specs. In addition the t1 set will be only 6 instead of 8.
So 6 set t1 + 2set t0.5 is pretty strong.
Doing the q chain at least so far to get 2 pieces of t0.5 is therefore not useless and “100% skippable”

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  1. For people who want to have stronger gear (and better logs) for some first raids.
  2. For people in hardcore guildes who want to clear “heat level 3” MC in first week. Idk how hard it will be, but surely harder then prev SoD raids because blizz added difficulty “Heat levels”, and clearing “heat level 3” in 1st week will probably require good dps/.
  3. For people who just have a lot of time and doing t0,5 is good thing to spend this time.
  4. For some classes it’s better then t1 to some slots. A lot of classes use 2-set t0,5 in their BiS list and best slots for this 2-set is usually slots that in the end of quest chain,.
  5. And we dont know drop raid of t1 gear and how fast all people in raid will get it. In classic it required several months. In SoD it probably will be a bit faster because we have only 20 ppl in raid, but it will still require several weeks to get full t1 set and also depends of your luck, because it can just not drop for your class

Also some words about t0,5 for new players in later phases. Most of the materials required for t0,5 set quest chain are crafted with 3 days cooldown, and they will cost significantly less in future. Now they cost so much because of high demand but in 1-2 months they will cost significantly less. We have already seen it in p2/p3 with crafted gear, where gnomeregan salvages ot nightmare seeds cost insane money first time, but in 2-3 weeks they cost less then 1g.

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Thats nonsense. That kind of player doesn’t exist in SOD in any meaningful numbers. People who are that esoteric about wow don’t care about gear, and even if they did, they’re not playing SOD that doesn’t cater to their playstyle almost at all. They’re in retail.

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Professions, pvp consumables

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Its half a 1k in gold on a seasonal server. There’s no progression after. Doesn’t matter if you have million gold by the end its a complete waste.

Theres no excuse to have an armour set with that kind of gold sink on a seasonal realm. You are trying to make points to who the set is for?

Like you said its for less than 1% of the playerbase for the hardcore parsers and gold buyers.

You could argue in Classic it was fine to leave it that expensive as we were obviously gonna progress to at least Cata/WoTLK so we would have transmog at some point but for SoD if you farm it, you just wasted 500 gold you could spend on consumes and getting armour that you’ll replace fast.

They will obviously increase the drop cadance gor T1 as SoD will not last 2 years. You should an minimum expect x2 the loot and with alts being difficult to catch up in SoD you shouldn’t expect many people running the raid x2 a week. You will gear a lot faster.

So my point is this set was wasted potential. 1% of player only obtaining it means it was failed content, even 3% of the player base completed Naxx back in the day so I would say it failed. I still havent seen anyone in game with the head or chest.

All your arguements are weak and yous are saying the bad game design is good for the game? SoD is failing and the bad decisions the icing on the cake. X2 of my IRL friends who played all phases are not playing Phase 4 because the can’t be bothered going through Attunes, spamming x100 dungeons to get T0 and spend 100s of hours farming gold to get T0.5. They’d rather not play than go through that torture. They said the might come back in a later phase if theres a catch up mechanic.

You guys defending this is literally causing a game mode you guys like to die but /clap. The Classic ERA players are probably so brain washed you are beyond saving…

You get what you guys deserve.

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Imagine posting a long wall of text because you either cannot afford 450 gold or getting frustrated by the competition while farming the quest items/materials. The quest chain is amazing and always been. What is this post about man? You are not happy that items are not handed to you for free with zero effort? It is absolutely pointless. If you do not want to go through the chain and acquire the set then do not? I am nowhere near a hardcore player but I am doing this because the chain is amazing, engaging and very cool.

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It would be ok to do the q chain if it is for a long time in use. But all that struggle is wasted after 2-3 weeks. Only 2 of the 8 pieces will be relevant for most classes after t1 is available

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You guys really think you’ll be full T1 in a couple of weeks ?
You don’t wanna do the quest, then don’t but so far SoD is FULL of people going for their T0.5 because most SoD players are minmaxers.
Also it is content, and we’ve been starved of content for quite a few weeks so it’s nice and well to have something to keep us busy and engaged before MC. The 450g is not really an excuse, gold comes far more easily than in era or vanilla.
I haven’t been able to get my 100% mount before the start of TBC back in the days, this time I had more than 1k gold waiting at the end of P3 and I’m not a dedicated gold farmer.

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With your logic there is no point to do any gear that require time (or gold) to get it in any wow addon because it will be replaced later. Transmog is a very weak argument, not so much people cares about it.

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So you guys think farming 500 gold is a good decision and reasonable for a seasonal server? I came here to have fun in a sped up seasonal server not spend 100 hrs farming gold…

Assuming this logic, you guys think its reasonable to spend that on every alt and think its good design. If the set is as important as you guys say then its even more imperative it isn’t locked behind 500g.

Again they don’t need to remove the quest being epic, just why gate it behind that much gold? It’s reasonable to point out how dumb this gold requirement is.

I ain’t farming gold on a dumb seasonal server and reading these comments makes me realise how much ERA SoD sucks.

They literally made every Rep x5 faster to level, made Rank 14 less grindy and faster, Made getting T0 easier to get, added duel spec, reduced to gold cost of respecs, made 60% speed mounts 80% cheaper to buy, buffed professions, nerfed gold costs of 100s of items such as Chronoboon and Raid drop x2-4 the loot of ERA. They have sped up all progression in every aspect of this game.

I’m not the idiot here for pointing this out. Its clearly gatekeeping in a way SoD wasn’t meant to. I can tell you if they actually make farming T1 take long it will kill SoD. Look how quickly ST died when people got/needed no gear. If nobody is getting loot, why the hell would you spend 2 hrs getting world buffs and 100s of gold on consumes to get no gear.

Either you guys are right, which is extremely bad because it means SoD is gonna fail or they will do something. Either way this is a loose, loose situation for everyone how it is currently going…

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seasonal… seasonal… seasonal… AND WHAT??? On prev phase most people have done all what they want in first 2-3 weeks and quited the game. Phase lasted for 3 months. This phase will probably be even longer because of retail new addon soon. Isn’t 3 months enough to farm 500 gold? You can easely farm 80-100 gold per hour in sod.

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T0.5 isn’t completing the phase and is no where near BiS. The fact you are smarter to skip it for most specs shows you how dumb they have designed it.

People will quit this faster than Phase 3 at this rate, you guys get what you deserve, when there’s no one left in SoD remember posts like this one.

Enjoy your grinding and wasting 100s of hours for this to fail.

Good Luck.

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I agree with everything you said dont let the blizzard slaves make you think that your weird. Big missed opportunity for blizzard

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Cant agree with you.
My whole guild is doing the t 0.5 quest atm (around 80 people).
And i think around 80% of my server is doing the T0.5 Questline you can see everywhere groups looking for people or people at the spots for the quest.
Just look at alcaz island…the worst thing in this questline and hundreds of complain threads