Honestly, it is ridiculous. Not only are dungeons built around VDH toolkit they pump around 1,8m HPS in a pack TO THEMSELVES which is more than what healers heal. All the bleeds in these dungeons are also just a jerk off mechanic for self-healing tanks and ruins everyone else. Example, priory first boss is a cakewalk on DH or BDK but absolutely awful on Prot Warr/Pally or BM. But this design also makes dungeons far harder on healer if they have to deal with anything except a VDH who u can ignore and heal the rest.
VDH comps right now are pushing higher keys than what “op prot paladin” did in s1 which should say enough. The top is all purple. It was all pink last season but Prot pally wasnt as broken as VDH is right now or how it was in DF s3-4 but I guess Blizz has short term memory. Biggest utility Prot brought to last season was interrupts
yep every season the same and thats why you have not many tank players, because when they are done with vdh/prot pala, its a bad experience to play with any different tank, because you are missing the silence/kick kit
plus tank balancing is mostly only on the start of every season. blizz is doing close to never anything mid season (besides last season with prot pala buffs)
and now imagine you play smth in the raid like brewmaster and you have to do mplus =)
At least this season brewmaster isnt neccessary, because mistweaver and windwalker are broken
M+ got nerfed. Severely. General scaling got reduced and Guile had its Tyrannical/Fortified replaced with the 15sec death timer. This isnt surprising. Our output also spiked by an insane amount this tier.
You will always have one tank dominate the rest. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Same goes for the DPS and Healer.
Which is why they are still the savest bets in pugs atm. Given pugs are apparently allergic to interrupts.
Then you do it with your guild. In a guild you shouldnt have any noteworthy issues unless your group goes full ooga booga and hardcore ints the key.
They do take far more direct physical damage than Warriors or Pallys. Is that fair?
100% true. Same with tankbusters that cannot be blocked.
Pally can resist (clear) it twice during a fight and BM’s stagger works against some physical DoTs. I am not 100% confident if that DoT can be staggered though. Maybe a BM expert would know.
Warrior… should stay well away from that boss xD
Any dungeon with ranged or DFC where u can abuse binding sigil, demon spikes parry works wonders right now and u got cheat death cuz of the “”“rework”“”. All the bleeds in these dungeons.
Debatable, u have parry and armor as DH out of the wazoo right now with all the crit trinkets/mastery gear.
Yeah u can bubble it and spellward the other one but they spam like crazy and the dot ticks are insane. bubbles and forebearance got nerfed to death aswell.
DH has more Hp than pally and can heal it up instantly, if u go by napkin math the 38% block percentage I have is less than what DH has in hp at equal gearscore.
Now that Augmentation is dead, there are multiple “meta comps”. Not just one.
The VDH meta (with DPriest mind you) is only valid in coordinated groups. And the advantages they provide are really tiny compared to other comps. Less than 1 key level.
For the pros that is a lot. For the rest of us mortals it is not.
And if you pug, PPala is still really good. And when it comes to healers, RShaman is still the king of PuGs.
You try to PuG things as any other class (including VDH) and you will have a harder time.
I have to say I don’t know what the meta looks like but I can say tanking is kinda scary and I don’t even exactly know why.
I levels this warrior specifically to be a tank. Sure I mostly do outdoor stuff and delve but I was hyped to atleast try lfr and maybe some HC dungeons.
But then they announced the new event for patch 11.1.5 that duo boss thing where you need a group and that sound super fun but I instantly switched to arms cause I feared playing in that event with other as a tank
I swear to god, people get mad about anything. There will ALWAYS be a best.
This whine amounts to being mad that something is best. There isnt a tank that cant get 3k (or hasnt got it) but someones just gotta lose their because purple is higher than pink this season.
Give it a rest.
Actually every tank is has representation over 3.2k atm and there are warriors and druids in the top 5 too. OP is whining for the sake of whining or just showing a complete lack of comprehension about what a meta is.
2nd highest rated tank in the world atm is a bear. They sure look terrible!
How bad bear tank is? I was thinking o playing it this season, got a semi-fresh one to 631ilvl to jump into m+, but it seems it’s not worth it since it’s the worst tank in S2?
DK is far better equipped against ranged. No idea what a DFC is.
Dh has definitely less parry than Prot pally with 5 enemies.
Dh also always have had cheat death. It’s not a rework.
Yes, DH and DK have an advantage when it comes to spell damage and bleed damage.
Right. Other classes just have way much more armor, and Block.
True that. Horrible encounter design.
Yet pally has multiple times the interrupts, Hand of Freedom, Protection/Spellwarding, Sacrifice, Lay on Hands. Doesn’t need help slowing for kiting. Casually throwing out 1.5m heals on dying party members.
So when it’s not time to eat uber-bleed or spell damage, it eclipses DH in literally every way.
because purple is higher than pink this season.
Bear does nice dps but seems alot squisher than them two.
