Taughts and reflections about the game. !LONG!

So, I am just going to open my heart here after few days of discussing and reflecting, couse I really need it.

I have come to this due to the new warlock race options, as it targets my favourite race. I love draenei (lfd too) and they would never do it. (be lock), it’s one of the reasons why I love them. Preserving their way at any time and struggle, staying true to their pre-Sargeras ideals. Also knowing that Blizzard wants to open all classes to all races in time, probably even this year, which includes many other questionable combos like undead and velf paladin or mechagnome druid. I have realized that they are completely abandoning race, class and even faction fantasy, the last with cross faction gameplay, which I have actually myself supported. But when it arrived, I just felt empty and wasn’t satisfied. It didn’t felt right to me. It was cca year ago and the feeling haven’t left. I know I can restrict faction for m+ group, but why would I wait twice as longer to get a group? I think that these restrictions were what made WoW WoW to me. You came in and you asked “Why this race is in this faction?” “Why they can be this class and not this one?” The lore was reflected in the gameplay, there was a reason for it. I think it was giving the game life and soul. It was truly a deep and living WORLD (of Warcraft) with depth. I still feel somewhat insulted when I see Horde NPC or player saying “Alliance dogs” But you know what? I love it, such things are a thing irl. But now, these restrictions are going to be removed step by step. I feel like some warlock (heh, fitting, since lock is what made me to think about it) is draining the game’s soul away. It was unique. Blizzard have to retcon entire lore to justify some things, throwing decades away for it.

Dragonflight is a fun expansion, but I feel empty. Shadowlands was just too much damage. I stayed becouse I love my draenei and SL haven’t touched them much. But now even what I love about them is gonna be taken away. However I also think it would come to this anyway in time. BFA and especially SL just hastened it, but it would be a thing. The game is like Roman Empire, once it rached it’s peak, it slowly declines. Every disaster brought losses, but the follwing resurgence haven’t recovered everything. and it lead to a point where they remained basically one city, stubbornly hiding behind it’s walls, (I am including Byzantium, for thos wha haven’t got it) and even that was eventually conquered. We have come to the point when WoW had huge decline recently which also saw rise of other mmos. Those mostly have such things like no faction, and all race/class combos. I think Blizzard in an attempt to get people back is trying to copy them, but I also think the gain is only temporary. People will come, have some fun, and leave. It will not be WORLD, but Amusement park (of Warcraft). You come, you have some fun and leave. No depth in it. WoW will be just another generic mmo. But the other mmos were intended to be this way, it works for them. Not for WoW. I know many people like the restrictions to be removed, but I feel that with this, the game have just lost what it was. I can’t immerse myself into this new game. Since the announcement I require more willpower to just log into the game. I am not quitting yet however, I still have my lovely characters, fine guild and friends here and as I said, DF is fun xpac and have many Ws from me for other things. I can also move to classic. But each July I have a vacation where I am for 3 weeks or month at the forsests, no internet, barely any electricity, cooking on fire and cutting woods for it. It is a break from the tediusness of the every day life of the rest of the year, and break from WoW. It refreshes my mind. But I feel that once I return, I will not log in, no reason to. Maybe that’s what I need, just a break and I will want to play again. I think I would definitely miss my toons. However, to not be completely negative, once I quit, which I am afraid will be this year, it will not be with regret and spite. I do not intend to become yet another “wow sucks” “dead game” andy. I know many of you still enjoy it and I am not taking it away from you, nor even want to. I do not regret the fun I had here. I am thankful I could be part of this world. But what brought me here, seems to be gone. You can agree or disagree as you want, you have right to it. I think I have said it all. If you have made it all the way here, well, thanks for coming to my TED Talk. :slight_smile:

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My love…

Dammit.

Probably - break is always good.

I took a break for an entire year (even deleted my account) - and just recently felt like returning after playing around at lvl 60 for a few weeks.

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I think my biggest regret is I actually haven’t tried an actual RP. Might actually giving it a chance.

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Go for it - I left AD myself after 8 years of being there, but mainly due to the toxic crabs I was hearing (seeing) on the forums. I just felt ashamed being on the server - thus I’m on Dentarg. :laughing:

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I just don’t know how to start. What to do. I don’t want to move out of Silvermoon, as I have everything here. I was always somewhat RPing in my head. I do have TRP3 but others with it I met never whispered.

Just make an alt?

Insert Shia Labouf JUST DO IT

Probably because you’re from Silvermoon, thus wouldnt know if you’re a Roleplayer or just adding it for fun.

That’s what I do - but I’d never be able to actually roleplay.

I do have one, I am afraid I would be also disconneted from my guild, especially if I would fell for it and I don’t want to abandon them, or have loyalties between to guilds.

I tought so, and yes, it wa for fun, but was hoping XD

Understand, I can’t imagine myself either actually, but who know, maybe I would love it.

You don’t need to join a guild to RP.

And cant your Silvermoon guild just make a Community?

I’m sure you would.

The problem I have with myself in RP is that I dont have the patience to learn, I cant focus well, and I cant stick with something properly without eventually wanting to change. So it’s easier to just avoid it. Not everyone has an ADHD brain, huehue.

Never tought about it. I would also love to know how large portion of me to trying it yet is just my own laziness and my insecurities towards new things, I do not have exp in yet.

Well, there is a reason why I do have so much characters XD. But never actually brought any other class to endgame, unless lfr or low keys. Always stubbornly playing one in the end XD

The lore has been so bad for so long, but the combination of Shadowland and BFA just destroyed the sliver of interest left.

And they keep trying to be super serious, like with our intro character to DF getting randomly offed…

On the topic of race fantasy, they aren’t abandoning it. Rather they are giving us the players the freedom the devs themselves have.

Repost of a list i made a year back.
Grimtotem has rogues, and a sizeable portion of them joined the horde after Magatha tried to massacre the bloodotems.

Blood Elves and Night Borne also got druids, albeit without the feral focus

Belf shaman

Zadalari warlocks:

Fairly certain Vulpera picked up warlock stuff from this zandalari town.

And undead paladin:

And when it comes to draenei warlocks… Just look at the entirety of WoD.

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Many of the new incoming combos can definitely be explained without a headache, but in the end, it’s not what the post is about. It was just a catalyst. I think that the fact that you could not play this exact combo but this one you could, and the fact that you just could not raid Ally and Horde together was what made the game unique and actually and to some even paradoxically succesful, while now it becomes a generic mmo.

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And when it comes to the factions… The factions have always been a nonsensical stain on the game. Why exactly did the Night Elves submit themselves to a mangled Alliance halfway across the world? An alliance they had never had any direct contact with.

The Night elves a xenophobic isolationist culture…

Theramore somehow being tied to the Alliance again with Jaina still as a leader even after they caused the death of Daelin and the destruction of the Alliance navy.

Quite frankly, WoW would have made more sense if Theramore was the starting location for Humans, and all players and races were at least neutral with one another. Instead all races were and are treated as the a collective when it comes to players, being locked into the nonsensical factions when the Blizzard themselves dangled free faction less individuals in our faces for years.

I understand this. The game was still made by humans, and ye, the transition from W3 to WoW isn’t best. But I still think it is what made the game unique and in the end succesful. If you disagree, you are free to. That’s even why I even wrote it, to say what I think and see what others think. This is a forum afterall. Discussion belongs here.

WoW would still have become succsessful even without the faction conflict.

Back then it was quite simply one of the best chat-rooms you could get, for 10 euro a month with the bonus of being a colorful game.

Meanwhile the mess that was faction conflic have consistently throughout wow’s lifetime been killing servers and communities. Balanced realms were never the norm, they were the oddities. Every single time the scales tipped people would simply migrate, either swapping to the winning team or swap to a server where their team was winning.

I unfortunately wasn’t there from begining so I don’t remember some of this and therefore you might be right. I am aware of some issues the faction conflict coused, I am personally not that pvp oriented, I just do it sometimes to get some marks and get older tmogs, and I am playing one server, with all my characters, and it happened to be main Ally Silvermoon so in this way I havent come to conflict aswell, so it might be truly only my own bias. And you know what? Just talking here on forum since the lock announcement somewhat silencing my doubts. Maybe I am truly just burned out and only need some break. Last July my vacation was cut to 2 weeks only due to ilness I obtained by doing illegal stuff and since then I was just always playing, as It’s just easy to log in when dwelling on campus.

And honestly, those belong to the reasons why the combo wasn’t a thing. It was always a disaster to them when it appeared. Sargerai were just Argus 2.0.

Opening one’s heart is usually best done with ample use of paragraphs. :kissing_heart:

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I mean, ye, ur’e not wrong, could use more.

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I remember how I brought my friend to try wow, he asked me why worgens can’t be paladins and I, ehm, I don’t remember what I said but I didn’t had a good answer on this question.
There are so many illogical and “for the sake of faction balance” restrictions for classes, I don’t know how someone can defend it

Sargerai were a pawns of legion, dollar store bootleg filthy loser warlocks, azeroth aligned warlocks belong to the cool boys club.
As you can see I am a big fan of warlock class

Here you get a point. I don’t remember Gilneas having paladins tho, and being Worgen, thinking you are a scary monster, might disconecting them from it, but I really don’t see how here, as the human way about selflessnes and sacrifice could work.

Not exactly defending, actually I want to see poeple who disagree especially here, Im here thinking this and I might see the things in wrong way (define “wrong” here). I want to see other points.

Yes

I think “edgy” is the right word hides

One cannot miss it :stuck_out_tongue: