God forbid the game would challenge the boosters
You donât want challenging, you want punitive. letâs be honest the boost could come with grey items and youâd be against it.
Hellfire will be challenging in level 58 blues. It wont be challenging in level 60 gear.
Thatâs true, I do remember being surprised at how hard mobs hit compared to Azeroth equivalents. However, I also remember getting better equipment from questing pretty quickly and consistently, so the difficulty smoothed out pretty quickly, even before hitting 60. Of course, my memory could be faulty, itâs been years
of course i would be wth. You think this is about the gear? The gear makes it worse.
Itâs about time you accept the inevitability that you have lost this particular battle. Boosts are coming. Play the game or donât is the only decision you have left.
No i will actually stay in classic if/when the boost comes, i did that decision a while ago. Im still voicing my opinion about the thing because thats the only thing i can do about it.
If you are anywhere near having maxed out your lvl 59 twinkâs xp before TBC release you will be in trouble even without the boost. There are plenty of very strong quest rewards that are available to level 58 characters.
So we agree that, in most cases before that patch, twinks were playing not against other twinks, but against standard leveling characters, which ofc means they were roflstomping them.
Dude, I played pvp twinks. Plural.
I had a rogue (lvl 19 bracket) in classic, into which I invested upwards 800g (back then that was a lot), I invested at least 3 times that into my BC huntertwink (lvl 29 bracket), and again that much into a mage (lvl 49 bracket) And ofc I still had my rogue which I upgraded into the 49 bracket.
Guess what I did with those characters? Thatâs right: Finishing WSG games with 60+ kills, laughing my a$$ off.
Yeah, I am toooootally focused on morality here
Itâs not like I know what I am talking about because I did the exact thing I am talking about or anything
Hellfire is not challenging wtf are you talking about. I leveld my first character from 54-58 by just grinding mobs in hellfire.
Youâre obviously a pro-gamer.
Not at all, as I said it was my first character, I was really a noob (hitting with my staff as a warlock to level 10) but some basic understanding of what abilities does and you are good to go.
If the gear the boosted 58s will get are the âcommunalâ items then they are anything but game breaking.
The HFP quest rewards are better than those in most cases and you can do most of them at level 58 so the twinks can go over and get better items than the boosted ones.
The expections are the trinkets and the communal 2h mace which at first glance have better dps than the Rage Reaver 2h axe quest reward. But for pvp the axe (167-251 damage, 58,06 dps, 19 agility, 30 stamina, 38 ap) is much more desirable as the communal mace (135-204 damage, 62,78 dps, 14 strenght, 14 stamina) has a 2.7 speed to the 3.6 speed of the axe.
The trinkets might be the best you can get in that bracket on one slot. Cruelâs Intention quest is doable at level 58 which will most likely take up one trinket slot as itâs a really good item. For the other the communal trinket (6 stamina, 20 ap or 20 sp) might be the best but I admint Iâm not familiar which options are available for that slot at 59.
Varies on bracket. Once again, the 19 and 29 brackets were the only popular ones and were the only ones to survive (At least, once the queue bug was fixed)
Back in TBC and WoTLK, around 50% of each team were some kind of twink in the 19 bracket. Some were fully decked out, others just had a bit of gear because they thought âlol twinking easy, me big skill 1.8k rating, me beat them easyâ.
As did I. You are not unique.
I had a 19 paladin, 19 warrior and a 60 shaman.
I always used my characters to fight twinks. Turns out that the rogues couldnât out sustain warriors and paladins. Up until WoTLK added gylphs and hunters were using glyph of the monkey to absolutely dominate all low level BGs.
After the twinking nerf? Getting 60+ kills was even easier. Why? Because people got lazy. They jumped into battlegrounds with their heirlooms and grays, and they got absolutely slaughtered by the occasional throw-away twink.
You could throw 300g on a toon (WoTLK, so 300g was nothing) at lvl10, and plow through people in battlegrounds up to 20, then do the same again at 20.
You didnât even have to spend a fortune on assassinâs blades and shadowfangs, because of heirlooms. And then Cataclysm made it even worse, due to getting high-end abilities at lvl10. Priests became unkillable, and shield slam wrecked people.
Twinking changed over the years, your âexperienceâ is limitted entirely to tbc/wotlk.
Clearly you donât. Youâre talking only from memory and not from experience, theyâre not the same thing.
Theres a dutch verb âzoals de waard vertrouwt hij zijn gastenâ loosly translates to you expect others to behave as you do.
Because you play a twink to roflstomp others doesnât mean that everyone plays a twink to do the same. I find the 19 29 and 39 brackets appealing because of one thing. No mounts. I actually enjoy it when i fight other twinks, Spending time and effort in developing your character, at whatever level or for whatever reason is fun. Retail twinking isnât fun because 90% of the gear is account bound gear bought because you have max level characters. You donât risk overleveling anymore due to level lock, and with autoscaling, combined with personal loot you donât even need to get into a twink guild to make those special kill runs.
Twinking isnât difficult anymore, it doesnât require luck / planning and effort. And therefor the current retail twinks are just well roflstompers
I hate to break it to you, but hitting things with your staff as a warlock is not generally understood to be a good to go ability.
Yeah, it was mostly fun when you were stomping the enemy team due to the gear difference.
Once it became more balanced, it was like âehh, whatâs the point in twinking⊠if youâre all balanced in stats etcâ
And because you play a twink to combat other twinks, doesnât mean everybody, or even a majority, plays a twink to do the same.
Ye I got that by the time I started to read what the spells did
Well, the only reason I and many others twink is that once you are BiS, that it. No more gearing, just some minor changes over time.
And when we queue BGs as twink premade it is only to face other twink premade. We donât care about stomping levelers. If we donât face premade, we just win as fast as possible and hope the next game will be against premade. Balanced games are fun. Games vs levelers are boring, cos no challenge.
Not all twinks are the same.
Was there a need to necro an old thread?